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521      <h1 class="podcast-intro__title">The Rural Impact</h1>
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523          Hosted by: <span class="podcast-intro__author-name">Michelle Rathman</span>
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528        A Podcast that Connects the Dots between Policy and Rural Everything.
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602    <span class="podcast-episode__meta-text">Season #13</span>
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604    <time datetime="2026-10-08T04:00:00Z" data-local="time" data-format="%B %d, %Y">October 08, 2026</time>
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729    A Conversation about Land Use and Powering Rural with Jason Strouf, John Shafer and Rebekah Pierce
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733    <span class="podcast-episode__meta-text">Season #13</span>
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735    <time datetime="2026-09-24T04:00:00Z" data-local="time" data-format="%B %d, %Y">September 24, 2026</time>
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854  <div class="podcast-episode__description">Land use decisions are shaping the future of rural America—from the rapid growth of data centers to new opportunities for producing food and renewable energy on the same land.
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856
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860  <h3 class="podcast-episode__title">
861    The Other Side of Transformation with Leslie Dach
862  </h3>
863
864  <p class="podcast-episode__meta">
865    <span class="podcast-episode__meta-text">Season #10</span>
866    
867    <time datetime="2026-08-27T04:00:00Z" data-local="time" data-format="%B %d, %Y">August 27, 2026</time>
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986  <div class="podcast-episode__description">In this episode of The Rural Impact, host Michelle Rathman sits down with Leslie Dach, Founder and Chair of Protect Our Care, for a conversation about what these policy changes mean for rural communities and why the...</div>
987
988  <a aria-label="Go to The Other Side of Transformation with Leslie Dach" class="btn btn-primary btn--outline podcast-default-btn" href="https://www.theruralimpact.com/podcasts/the-rural-impact/episodes/2149248022">View Episode</a>
989</article>
990<article class="podcast-episode">
991  <h3 class="podcast-episode__title">
992    Perspectives from Montana - Policy, Budget &amp; Barriers to Care with Heather O&#39;Loughlin
993  </h3>
994
995  <p class="podcast-episode__meta">
996    <span class="podcast-episode__meta-text">Season #10</span>
997    
998    <time datetime="2026-08-13T04:00:00Z" data-local="time" data-format="%B %d, %Y">August 13, 2026</time>
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1117  <div class="podcast-episode__description">In this episode of The Rural Impact, host Michelle Rathman is joined by Heather O’Loughlin, Executive Director of the Montana Budget and Policy Center, to explore the policies and economic decisions affecting...</div>
1118
1119  <a aria-label="Go to Perspectives from Montana - Policy, Budget &amp; Barriers to Care with Heather O&#39;Loughlin" class="btn btn-primary btn--outline podcast-default-btn" href="https://www.theruralimpact.com/podcasts/the-rural-impact/episodes/2149242207">View Episode</a>
1120</article>
1121<article class="podcast-episode">
1122  <h3 class="podcast-episode__title">
1123    The Impact of H.R.1 One Year In with Alan Morgan, Jed Hansen, PhD, APRN, FNP-C, and Kait Guild
1124  </h3>
1125
1126  <p class="podcast-episode__meta">
1127    <span class="podcast-episode__meta-text">Season #10</span>
1128    
1129    <time datetime="2026-07-30T04:00:00Z" data-local="time" data-format="%B %d, %Y">July 30, 2026</time>
1130  </p>
1131
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1248  <div class="podcast-episode__description">One year after the passage of H.R.1 and the creation of the $50 billion Rural Health Transformation Program (RHTP), The Rural Impact revisits one of the most significant policy shifts affecting rural healthcare. Host...</div>
1249
1250  <a aria-label="Go to The Impact of H.R.1 One Year In with Alan Morgan, Jed Hansen, PhD, APRN, FNP-C, and Kait Guild" class="btn btn-primary btn--outline podcast-default-btn" href="https://www.theruralimpact.com/podcasts/the-rural-impact/episodes/2149235997">View Episode</a>
1251</article>
1252<article class="podcast-episode">
1253  <h3 class="podcast-episode__title">
1254    A Conversation with Steven Conn | Lies of The Land
1255  </h3>
1256
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1258    
1259    
1260    <time datetime="2026-07-16T04:00:00Z" data-local="time" data-format="%B %d, %Y">July 16, 2026</time>
1261  </p>
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1379  <div class="podcast-episode__description">For more than a century, why has rural America been described as being "in crisis"? In this thought-provoking episode of The Rural Impact, host Michelle Rathman sits down with historian and author Steven Conn to...</div>
1380
1381  <a aria-label="Go to A Conversation with Steven Conn | Lies of The Land" class="btn btn-primary btn--outline podcast-default-btn" href="https://www.theruralimpact.com/podcasts/the-rural-impact/episodes/2149231375">View Episode</a>
1382</article>
1383<article class="podcast-episode">
1384  <h3 class="podcast-episode__title">
1385    Pathways to Powering Rural America with John C. Shepard
1386  </h3>
1387
1388  <p class="podcast-episode__meta">
1389    <span class="podcast-episode__meta-text">Season #13</span>
1390    
1391    <time datetime="2026-07-02T04:00:00Z" data-local="time" data-format="%B %d, %Y">July 02, 2026</time>
1392  </p>
1393
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1510  <div class="podcast-episode__description">As artificial intelligence expands and the demand for digital infrastru
1510cture accelerates, rural America is increasingly at the center of conversations and controversies over energy production, data centers, land use,...</div>
1511
1512  <a aria-label="Go to Pathways to Powering Rural America with John C. Shepard" class="btn btn-primary btn--outline podcast-default-btn" href="https://www.theruralimpact.com/podcasts/the-rural-impact/episodes/2149225808">View Episode</a>
1513</article>
1514<article class="podcast-episode">
1515  <h3 class="podcast-episode__title">
1516    2026 Farm Bill, Protected Lands and Medicaid Landmines with Joan Alker and Heidi Heitkamp
1517  </h3>
1518
1519  <p class="podcast-episode__meta">
1520    <span class="podcast-episode__meta-text">Season #12</span>
1521    
1522    <time datetime="2026-06-18T04:00:00Z" data-local="time" data-format="%B %d, %Y">June 18, 2026</time>
1523  </p>
1524
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1641  <div class="podcast-episode__description">In this power-hour conversation, Michelle begins by welcoming returning guest expert Joan Alker, Executive Director and Co-founder of the Center for Children and Families.  Joan shares recent research focused on...</div>
1642
1643  <a aria-label="Go to 2026 Farm Bill, Protected Lands and Medicaid Landmines with Joan Alker and Heidi Heitkamp" class="btn btn-primary btn--outline podcast-default-btn" href="https://www.theruralimpact.com/podcasts/the-rural-impact/episodes/2149218174">View Episode</a>
1644</article>
1645<article class="podcast-episode">
1646  <h3 class="podcast-episode__title">
1647    Views from The Field: Farm Bill 2026 with Blaire Bryant, Dakkia Bradshaw and Bruno Sabatier
1648  </h3>
1649
1650  <p class="podcast-episode__meta">
1651    <span class="podcast-episode__meta-text">Season #12</span>
1652    
1653    <time datetime="2026-06-04T04:00:00Z" data-local="time" data-format="%B %d, %Y">June 04, 2026</time>
1654  </p>
1655
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1772  <div class="podcast-episode__description">In this episode of The Rural Impact, Views from the Field: Farm Bill 2026, host Michelle Rathman speaks with Senior Leg
1772islative Director of the National Association of Counties Blaire  Bryant and Commissioner Dakkia...</div>
1773
1774  <a aria-label="Go to Views from The Field: Farm Bill 2026 with Blaire Bryant, Dakkia Bradshaw and Bruno Sabatier" class="btn btn-primary btn--outline podcast-default-btn" href="https://www.theruralimpact.com/podcasts/the-rural-impact/episodes/2149213334">View Episode</a>
1775</article>
1776<article class="podcast-episode">
1777  <h3 class="podcast-episode__title">
1778    Michelle&#39;s May Matters
1779  </h3>
1780
1781  <p class="podcast-episode__meta">
1782    <span class="podcast-episode__meta-text">Season #12</span>
1783    
1784    <time datetime="2026-05-21T04:00:00Z" data-local="time" data-format="%B %d, %Y">May 21, 2026</time>
1785  </p>
1786
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1903  <div class="podcast-episode__description">In this solo Memorial Day and early summer episode of The Rural Impact, host Michelle Rathman shares reflections from the road while attending the National Rural Health Association Annual Meeting and previews several...</div>
1904
1905  <a aria-label="Go to Michelle&#39;s May Matters" class="btn btn-primary btn--outline podcast-default-btn" href="https://www.theruralimpact.com/podcasts/the-rural-impact/episodes/2149207604">View Episode</a>
1906</article>
1907<article class="podcast-episode">
1908  <h3 class="podcast-episode__title">
1909    Tracking Transformation: Federal Funding Forecast and States&#39; Use of RHTP Funds with Maya Sandalow, Chris Nelson and Carrie Cochran-McClain
1910  </h3>
1911
1912  <p class="podcast-episode__meta">
1913    <span class="podcast-episode__meta-text">Season #10</span>
1914    
1915    <time datetime="2026-05-07T04:00:00Z" data-local="time" data-format="%B %d, %Y">May 07, 2026</time>
1916  </p>
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2039  <h3 class="podcast-episode__title">
2040    The Precarious State of Public Education with Paige Shoemaker Demio and Dr. Steven L. Johnson
2041  </h3>
2042
2043  <p class="podcast-episode__meta">
2044    <span class="podcast-episode__meta-text">Season #11</span>
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2046    <time datetime="2026-04-23T04:00:00Z" data-local="time" data-format="%B %d, %Y">April 23, 2026</time>
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