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546<i class="fa fa-clock-o"></i> מתוזמן
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552<i class="fa fa-lock"></i> נעול
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567<span component="topic/post-count" title="2" class="fw-bold">2</span>
568<span class="hidden-xs text-lowercase fw-normal">פוסטים</span>
569</span>
570<span class="badge text-body border border-gray-300 stats text-xs">
571<i class="fa fa-fw fa-user visible-xs-inline" title="כותבים"></i>
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573<span class="hidden-xs text-lowercase fw-normal">כותבים</span>
574</span>
575<span class="badge text-body border border-gray-300 stats text-xs">
576<i class="fa fa-fw fa-eye visible-xs-inline" title="צפיות"></i>
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578<span class="hidden-xs text-lowercase fw-normal">צפיות</span>
579</span>
580
581<span class="badge text-body border border-gray-300 stats text-xs">
582<i class="fa fa-fw fa-bell-o visible-xs-inline" title="עוקבים"></i>
583<span class="fw-bold" title="2">2</span>
584<span class="hidden-xs text-lowercase fw-normal">עוקבים</span>
585</span>
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611<i class="flex-shrink-0 fa fa-fw text-secondary"></i>
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676</div>
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681<meta itemprop="url" content="/user/שאלתיאל">
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684<a class="d-inline-block position-relative text-decoration-none" href="/user/שאלתיאל">
685<img title="שאלתיאל" data-uid="8923" class="avatar  avatar-rounded" alt="שאלתיאל" loading="lazy" component="user/picture" src="/assets/uploads/profile/uid-8923/8923-profileavatar-1787782709625.jpeg" style="--avatar-size: 20px;" onError="this.remove()" itemprop="image" /><span title="שאלתיאל" data-uid="8923" class="avatar  avatar-rounded" component="user/picture" style="--avatar-size: 20px; background-color: #f44336">ש</span>
686
687<span component="user/status" class="position-absolute top-100 start-100 border border-white border-2 rounded-circle status offline" title="מנותק"></span>
688
689</a>
690</div>
691<a class="fw-bold text-nowrap text-truncate" href="/user/שאלתיאל" data-username="שאלתיאל" data-uid="8923">שאלתיאל</a>
692</div>
693
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695<div class="d-flex gap-1 align-items-center">
696<span class="text-muted">כתב <a href="/post/172205" class="timeago text-muted" title="2026-09-22T19:15:16.066Z"></a></span>
697<i component="post/edit-indicator" class="fa fa-edit text-muted edit-icon hidden" title="נערך Invalid Date"></i>
698<span data-editor="" component="post/editor" class="visually-hidden">נערך לאחרונה על ידי  <span class="timeago" title="Invalid Date"></span></span>
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703<span class="bookmarked opacity-0 text-primary"><i class="fa fa-bookmark-o"></i></span>
704<a href="/post/172205" class="post-index text-muted d-none d-md-inline">#1</a>
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706</div>
707<div class="content text-break" component="post/content" itemprop="text">
708<p dir="rtl">אוקי, השאלה מתחלקת לשני חלקים:</p>
709<p dir="rtl">א. בוט טלגרם בנטפרי, אפשרי? ראיתי אתרים שמתווכים ביני לבינם<br />
710מישהו יודע? מישהו יודע מנסיון האם זה אמור לעבוד? במערכת הפניות לא ידעו להשיב לי</p>
711<p dir="rtl">ב. שרת VPS מאובטח, זול, חינמי אם ממשק ניהול נוח יש למישהו המלצות? מנסיון אישי?</p>
712
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723<span class="ms-2 replies-count fw-semibold text-nowrap" component="post/reply-count/text" data-replies="0">תגובה 1</span>
724<span class="ms-2 replies-last hidden-xs fw-semibold">תגובה אחרונה <span class="timeago" title=""></span></span>
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