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I wish I'd thought about this before I built my pond in butyl - there's a lot more primers/seam tapes/adhesives etc out there designed for EDPM than butyl! I know they're linked materials in terms of chemical composition and behaviour, but I don't want to spend too much money experimenting, so thought I'd ask you wise folks!<br /> 1347<br /> 1348I have successfully used Innotec Adheseal on my butyl liner, and unsuccessfully used butyl cold (mastic-style) tape. 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The uncurred having very similar properties to butyl. Now not knowing what exact material your pond is the primer for epdm and the self adhesive seem tape that they seĺ today should do the job for you. But seeing as we cant be sure after priming and patching of its longevity id look at seaming / patching over the edges of the patch you just installed. Putting that first patch into a cacoon a state of suspended animation sorta speak . This way a seam needs to fail before it gets to thr seam that is the last defence. <br /> 1625Ps make sure to round your corners. 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So it will definately work. Just make sure you have good primer/ glue. And you thouroghly clean the surfaces. Water is often all thats needed but products like alchohol, gasoline. Anything that wont leave a residue behind works. 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