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18nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .mobile-menu[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{left:2.4rem;right:unset}header.nav-position-center[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{display:block}header.nav-position-center[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{justify-content:center}header.nav-position-center.logo-position-right[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] #logo-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{margin-left:auto}header.nav-position-center.logo-position-right[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .mobile-menu[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{left:2.4rem;right:unset}header.logo-position-center[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{display:block}header.logo-position-center[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] #logo-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{margin:0 auto;text-align:center;margin-bottom:1.25rem}header.logo-position-center.nav-position-right[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{justify-content:flex-end}header.logo-position-center.nav-position-center[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{justify-content:center}header[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] #logo-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{max-width:var(--logo-width);width:var(--logo-width)}.nav-item[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{color:var(--nav-color)}.nav-item[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:hover, .nav-item.active[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{color:var(--nav-color-hover, var(--primary-color))}.nav-item.active[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{cursor:default}.nav-item[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{font-weight:700;text-transform:capitalize}.nav-item[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-icon[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{margin-right:.3rem;font-size:calc(var(--nav-font-size) + 3px)}.nav-icons[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-item[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:after{opacity:0!important}#nav-container.link-decoration[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-item[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:after{width:0;transition-duration:.2s;transition-property:all;transition-timing-function:ease-in-out;display:block;height:2px;left:0;bottom:-.25rem;position:relative;opacity:0;background:var(--nav-color-hover, var(--primary-color));content:""}#nav-container.link-decoration[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-item[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:hover:after, #nav-container.link-decoration[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-item.active[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:after{opacity:1;width:100%}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .has-children[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] > .nav-item[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{display:flex;align-items:center;gap:.5rem}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .has-children[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] > .nav-item[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:after{font-family:faCustom;border:0;content:"\f107";font-size:12px;width:auto;position:static;background:transparent;height:auto;display:block;opacity:1;margin-top:1px}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .has-children[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:hover ul.sub-nav[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{display:block;opacity:1;animation:_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972_subnav_fadein 125ms}.sub-nav[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{display:none;opacity:0;padding:20px 30px;background-color:var(--header-bg);border-top:3px solid var(--nav-color-hover, var(--primary-color));border-radius:2px;box-shadow:0 7px 7px #0000000a;position:absolute;top:100%;left:0;z-index:9999}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul.sub-nav[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] a[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{display:inline-block;padding:.5rem 0;text-decoration:none;font-size:calc(var(--nav-font-size) - 2px);white-space:nowrap}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul.sub-nav[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] a[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:after{display:none}@keyframes _ngcontent-ng-c1393780972_subnav_fadein{0%{opacity:0;transform:scale(.6)}to{opacity:1;transform:scale(1)}}.top-header-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{text-align:var(--top-header-align);background-color:var(--top-header-bg);color:var(--top-header-color);padding-top:var(--top-header-padding);padding-bottom:var(--top-header-padding)} .nav-search .search-container{position:absolute;top:4rem;right:1rem;min-width:20rem} .nav-search .search-container input{box-shadow:0 0 4px #0003!important} .nav-search .search-container input:focus{border-width:2px;margin-top:-1px;margin-bottom:-1px} .nav-item.search-icon i{min-width:2.3rem} .nav-position-left .nav-search .search-container{right:unset;left:1rem}.mobile-menu[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{display:none;color:var(--nav-color)}
18@media screen and (min-width:767px){header.nav-position-left[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:first-child a[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{padding-left:0!important}header[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-item.navigation-cta[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{padding:.8rem 1.25rem!important;border-radius:var(--donation-button-border-radius);margin:.14rem 1.25rem;background-color:var(--donation-button-background-color, var(--primary-color));color:var(--donation-button-text-color, #fff)}header[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-item.navigation-cta[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:hover{background-color:var(--donation-button-background-hover-color, var(--primary-hover-color));color:var(--donation-button-text-hover-color)}header[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .nav-item.navigation-cta[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:after{display:none!important}}@media screen and (max-width:1024px){#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] a[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972], #nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] > button[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{font-size:calc(var(--nav-font-size) + .2rem);padding:.94rem 1.25rem!important}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul.sub-nav[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{padding:10px 20px}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .has-children[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] > .nav-item[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:after{right:calc(-1.2rem + var(--nav-horizontal-margin, 1.25rem))}}@media screen and (max-width:767px){.header-float[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{position:static;background:var(--header-bg)}.header-float[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] #header-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{padding-bottom:1rem}.mobile-menu[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{display:block!important;justify-content:center;align-items:center;position:absolute;right:2.4rem;top:.4rem;font-size:26px;cursor:pointer;padding-top:var(--header-padding);padding-bottom:var(--header-padding)}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul.sub-nav[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{position:static;opacity:1;display:none!important;box-shadow:none;padding:0 1rem 1rem!important;border-top:0}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul.sub-nav.active[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{display:block!important}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li.has-children[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .submenu-chevron[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:before{font-family:faCustom;border:0;content:"\f078";font-size:24px;cursor:pointer;top:0;right:5px;width:auto;left:unset;position:absolute;background:transparent;height:auto;display:block;opacity:1;padding:5px 20px;transition:all .2s;color:var(--nav-color)}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li.has-children[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .active.submenu-chevron[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:before{transform:rotate(-180deg)}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul.sub-nav[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] a[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{font-size:var(--nav-font-size)}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul.sub-nav[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] a[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:before{content:" \2013 "}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .has-children[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] > .nav-item[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:after{display:none}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] .has-children[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]:hover ul.sub-nav[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{animation:none}#header-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{transition:all .25s ease;overflow:hidden;position:relative}
18#header-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] #nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{display:none}#header-container.active[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{max-height:999rem}#header-container.active[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] #nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{display:block;padding-top:3rem;width:100%}header[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] #logo-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{max-width:50%!important}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] a.social-icon[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{padding:.94rem 1.25rem}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li.nav-icons[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{display:inline-block;padding-top:1rem}#nav-container[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] ul[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] li.nav-icons[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972] i[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{font-size:1.8rem}.header-sticky[_ngcontent-ng-c1393780972]{position:static;top:unset} .nav-search .search-container{position:absolute;top:1rem;left:4rem;min-width:20rem;display:flex}}</style><style ng-app-id="ng">[_nghost-ng-c1776407624] .pp-video-container iframe, [_nghost-ng-c1776407624] .custom-video-container{margin:0 auto;max-width:100%;margin-bottom:3rem;height:auto!important;width:min(100%,1024px);aspect-ratio:16/9}[_nghost-ng-c1776407624] a.pp-timestamp{cursor:pointer;font-family:Courier New,Courier,monospace;font-weight:700}[_nghost-ng-c1776407624] .custom-video-container .audio-player-wrapper.type-video{margin:0!important}[_nghost-ng-c1776407624] .related-episodes .pp-episode-container{display:flex;flex-direction:column;padding:1rem 4%!important;height:100%}[_nghost-ng-c1776407624] .related-episodes .pp-episode-container .pp-episode-image{padding-right:0!important;margin-bottom:.8rem}[_nghost-ng-c1776407624] .related-episodes .pp-episode-container .member-only-icon{margin-top:auto}@media screen and (min-width:768px){[_nghost-ng-c1776407624] .related-episodes .pp-episode-content .mejs__time, [_nghost-ng-c1776407624] .related-episodes .pp-episode-content .mejs__time-rail{display:none}[_nghost-ng-c1776407624] .related-episodes .pp-episode-content .mejs__button.mejs__jump-forward-button{margin-right:13%}}@media screen and (min-width:768px)and (max-width:1024px){[_nghost-ng-c1776407624] .related-episodes .pp-episode-content .mejs__button.mejs__skip-back-button, [_nghost-ng-c1776407624] .related-episodes .pp-episode-content .mejs__button.mejs__jump-forward-button{display:none}}@media screen and (max-width:767px){[_nghost-ng-c1776407624] .related-episodes .grid{grid-template-columns:repeat(1,minmax(0,1fr))!important}}.episode-content[_ngcontent-ng-c1776407624]{width:100%}.episode-tags[_ngcontent-ng-c1776407624]{opacity:.8;font-size:80%}
18.episode-tags[_ngcontent-ng-c1776407624] .cat-separator[_ngcontent-ng-c1776407624]:last-child{display:none}.episode-tags[_ngcontent-ng-c1776407624] .cat-separator[_ngcontent-ng-c1776407624]{padding-right:.2rem}</style><style ng-app-id="ng">#episode-header[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]{background:var(--episode-header-bg-color);background-size:cover}#episode-header[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020] .container[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]{padding-top:var(--episode-header-padding-top);padding-bottom:var(--episode-header-padding-bottom)}#episode-header[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020] h1[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]{color:var(--episode-header-title-color);font-size:var(--episode-header-title-size)}.episode-excerpt[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]{color:var(--episode-header-excerpt-color, #fff);word-break:break-word}#episode-header[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020] .subscribe-button[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]{font-weight:700;color:var(--episode-header-subscribe-color);background:var(--episode-header-subscribe-bg);border-radius:var(--default-border-radius, 3.12rem);padding:1rem 3rem}#episode-header[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020] .subscribe-button[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]:hover{color:var(--episode-header-subscribe-color-hover);background:var(--episode-header-subscribe-bg-hover, var(--primary-color))}.episode-meta[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]{color:var(--episode-header-meta-color);margin-bottom:1rem}.episode-info-container[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]{flex:1}.single-episode-info[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]{justify-content:space-between}.single-episode-info[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020] .single-episode-subscribe-container[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]{justify-content:center;flex-direction:column}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] .episode-meta .episode-meta-component a{color:var(--episode-header-meta-color)}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] #episode-header app-audio-player{display:flex;flex-direction:column;margin:2rem 0}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] #episode-header .audio-player-wrapper .stacked-player{max-width:100%;width:100%}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] #episode-header .audio-player-wrapper .player-image-enabled .stacked-player{flex-direction:column;flex:1;justify-content:center;max-width:100%;display:flex}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] #episode-header .audio-player-wrapper .player-image-enabled .stacked-player h3{display:none}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] #episode-header .audio-player-wrapper .player-featured-image, [_nghost-ng-c871296020] #episode-header .audio-player-wrapper .player-episode-title{display:none}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] #episode-header .audio-player-wrapper .mejs__button.mejs__speed-button, [_nghost-ng-c871296020] #episode-header .audio-player-wrapper .mejs__button.download-l
18ink, [_nghost-ng-c871296020] #episode-header .audio-player-wrapper .mejs__button.share-link, [_nghost-ng-c871296020] #episode-header .audio-player-wrapper .mejs__button.subscribe-link{position:initial}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] .episode-header-icons .subscribe-buttons{margin-top:2rem}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] .episode-header-icons .subscribe-buttons.style-buttons a{color:var(--episode-header-subscribe-color)!important}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] .episode-header-icons .subscribe-buttons.style-buttons a button.subscribe-icon{background-color:var(--episode-header-subscribe-bg)!important}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] .episode-header-icons .subscribe-buttons.style-buttons a:hover{color:var(--episode-header-subscribe-color-hover)!important}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] .episode-header-icons .subscribe-buttons.style-buttons a:hover button.subscribe-icon{background-color:var(--episode-header-subscribe-bg-hover)!important}@media screen and (max-width:1024px){.single-episode-info[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]{display:block}.single-episode-info[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020] .single-episode-subscribe-container[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]{display:block;margin-top:1.87rem}}@media screen and (max-width:767px){#episode-header[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020] .episode-info-container[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020], #episode-header[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020] .episode-img-container[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]{display:block!important;padding-right:0;margin-right:auto;margin-left:auto;max-width:100%;width:100%;text-align:center}#episode-header[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020] .episode-img-container[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020] img[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020], #episode-header[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020] .single-episode-subscribe-container[_ngcontent-ng-c871296020]{max-width:280px!important;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;margin-bottom:4rem}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] #episode-header .audio-player-wrapper{margin-top:2rem;margin-bottom:4rem;min-height:125px}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] #episode-header .audio-player-wrapper .stacked-player{min-height:0!important}[_nghost-ng-c871296020] .episode-meta-component{justify-content:center}}</style><style ng-app-id="ng">[_nghost-ng-c1720721290]{background:var(--sidebar-bg);display:block;padding:var(--sidebar-padding);border-radius:var(--sidebar-radius)}[_nghost-ng-c1720721290] #sidebar-container .recaptcha-container{transform:scale(.66);transform-origin:0}</style><style ng-app-id="ng">.search-container[_ngcontent-ng-c766899677] input[_ngcontent-ng-c766899677]{margin:0;width:100%;z-index:100;color:var(--body-font-color)}.search-icon[_ngcontent-ng-c766899677]{width:2.4rem;margin-left:-2.6rem;outline:none;z-index:101;cursor:pointer}.search-icon[_ngcontent-ng-c766899677] 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William Harlan, overseeing Harlan Estate, BOND, Promontory, and The Mascot in the Napa Valley of California.</p><p>Cory recounts his memories of growing up in the Napa Valley and learning about winemaking from the age of 15. He recalls running around The French Laundry as a kid and helping out with a harvest at Forman Vineyard. He also talks about his first experiences at Harlan Estate, a property where he has now worked for decades. Cory discusses why he decided to pursue a career at Harlan, which led to being named the Winemaker of the property years later.</p><p>Cory talks about Bob Levy, the Founding Winemaker of Harlan Estate, who Cory still works with today. He also describes working for Bill Harlan and Will Harlan, the owners of the property. Cory talks about the 1997 vintage at Harlan Estate, and his experiences tasting that wine over the years. He also shares some thoughts about the ageing trajectory of Harlan wines in general.</p><p>Cory discusses the Harlan property itself and contrasts it with the nearby Promontory vineyard, then describes how the winemaking approach for Promontory evolved over time. This leads into a discussion of how the approach at Harlan Estate has changed over the years, both in terms of the farming and the winemaking. One key change has been the move to dry farming (without irrigation), and Cory talks about the implications of that shift. Other topics that emerge in the discussion include soil health, head trained vines, vineyard exposure, harvest date, native yeast fermentation, fermentation temperature, stem inclusion, extraction, tannin management, avoiding acidification, the duration of malolactic conversion, press wine, and the length of élevage. Amidst this discussion Cory emphasizes his respect for Bob Levyâs accomplishments and frames the shifts at Harlan over time as a natural evolution in a multi-generational business.</p><p>Cory shares the terrible circumstances surrounding the wildfires in the Napa Valley in 2017, and what his family experienced during that time. He also grapples with how that harvest redefined his thinking about the winemaking. After that experience in 2017, Cory reviewed harvest records from previous decades and started thinking more about the winemaking of the past in the Napa Valley. This coincided with Cory having more encounters with older vintages of Napa wines.</p><p>Farming is discussed in-depth, as Cory shares his thoughts on the language of plants and interacting with vines. A significant outcome of the work in the vines at Harlan has been earlier ripening as an outcome of dry farming. Cory recognizes members of his team who made key contributions to the work in the vines on the property, including the Castellanos brothers and Francisco Gonzalez. He also touches on the significant differences between different vineyard parcels within Harlan Estate, both in terms of vineyard work and exposure. The subject of multi-generational wineries comes to the fore as Cory discusses internal dynamics at the workplace between winemakers and ownership.</p><p>In 2020, wildfire reappeared in the Napa Valley, and Cory made a decision to harvest weeks earlier than had been the norm at Harlan Estate in the 2000s. He refers to that decision as âan inflection pointâ for Harlan Estate and shares his reasoning in this interview. The question of whether wildfires are part of a new climate reality for Napa is addressed in this interview, and Cory talks about the relation of farming and climate to wine style. He also shares his thoughts on how smoke taint may alter the tannins of a wine. He closes with the thought that his team is currently learning and adjusting at a faster pace.</p><p><br></p><p>This episode also features commentary from:</p><p><a href="https://illdrinktothatpod.com/episode/184-ric-forman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ric Forman</a>, Forman Vineyard</p><p><a href="https://illdrinktothatpod.com/episode/307-kelli-white" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kelli White</a>, Director of Education at The Wine Center and author of the book "Napa Valley Then & Now"</p><p><a href="https://illdrinktothatpod.com/episode/405-frederic-mugnier" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Frederic Mugnier</a>, Domaine Jacques-Frederic Mugnier</p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a>
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He closes with the thought that his team is currently learning and adjusting at a faster pace.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>\u003Cbr>\u003C/p>\u003Cp>This episode also features commentary from:\u003C/p>\u003Cp>\u003Ca href=\"https://illdrinktothatpod.com/episode/184-ric-forman\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ric Forman\u003C/a>, Forman Vineyard\u003C/p>\u003Cp>\u003Ca href=\"https://illdrinktothatpod.com/episode/307-kelli-white\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Kelli White\u003C/a>, Director of Education at The Wine Center and author of the book \"Napa Valley Then & Now\"\u003C/p>\u003Cp>\u003Ca href=\"https://illdrinktothatpod.com/episode/405-frederic-mugnier\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Frederic Mugnier\u003C/a>, Domaine Jacques-Frederic Mugnier\u003C/p>\u003Cp>See Privacy Policy at \u003Ca href=\"https://art19.com/privacy\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://art19.com/privacy\u003C/a> and California Privacy Notice at \u003Ca href=\"https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info\u003C/a>.\u003C/p>","summary":"Cory Empting is Managing Director of Winegrowing at Domain H. 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