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1577											<dd>Oct 30, 2021</dd>
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1640													<a href="/misc/location-info?location=Fort+Mill%2C+SC" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank" class="u-concealed">Fort Mill, SC</a>
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1687				<a href="/threads/ebay-insane-sold-item-prices-from-specific-sellers.5622/post-50135" rel="nofollow">
1688					<time  class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2026-09-23T23:43:00+0100" data-time="1790203380" data-date-string="Sep 23, 2026" data-time-string="11:43 PM" title="Sep 23, 2026 at 11:43 PM" itemprop="datePublished">Yesterday at 11:43 PM</time>
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1750				<div class="bbWrapper">I've got a side project where I am tracking sold prices on eBay and using it to provide an, albeit somewhat high estimate on going prices for vintage computers. And I've noticed there's some sellers on eBay that seem to have astronomically high sold prices on their eBay listings. These are confirmed sale prices, which I can confirm in the seller's hub research page that shows they are actually sale prices, not the original price before a best offer  The problem is I can't figure out if they aren't real sales, what the benefit would be to the seller? They would have to pay high sales fees. And I don't think they're shifing the perceived market  price for any of these machines meaningfully. <br />
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1752Here is an example of a listing by 1 of the sellers that always has extremely high prices,. In this example, it's $1000 for a quadra 700: <a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/327253666010?nordt=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://www.ebay.com/itm/327253666010?nordt=true</a><br />
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1754I've found about 5 sellers (including the one we all know about, Mr. Goldman) that seem to be selling for extremely high prices.  Now, many are fully restored and seem to be in good shape, but the prices seem unreasonable, even for eBay.  <br />
1755<br />
1756And if any of the sellers are people here, I apologize (maybe I should list for higher prices when selling fully recapped and restored machines with BlueSCSIs, maxed RAM?).  <br />
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1758I'm just curious because I don't understand if they aren't real sales, what would be in it for the sellers, considering I don't see them selling other items for less crazy prices, so it doesn't seem to be immediately helping the sellers, and would, in theory, cost them a decent amount in seller fees (~ $200-250 for that $1000 listing).  <br />
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1760What am I missing?</div>
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2086				<div class="bbWrapper">For a more extreme example, here's one of Mr Goldman's sales: a Quadra 840AV for over $3k...  Having to pay $700 multiple times to make people think that's a reasonable price would wipe out the profits from actually finally selling one for close to that.  <br />
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2408				<div class="bbWrapper">That Q700 does seem a little high, given the case is yellow and the RAM/VRAM have not been upgraded. Looks nice otherwise. I've sold computer items on eBay myself, though not recently due to lack of available time. What I will say is that if I spend a couple weeks on a restoration and end up with a museum quality piece at the end, I'd want to maximize the sale price as much as possible. Even if said machine sold for $2000, the labor hours, materials, supplies, etc would still likely yield me an overall loss. Oh well, I am proud of the work I do and the end result.<br />
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2410What has bugged me about Polka in the past is he doesn't seem to restore or repair any machines, but still asks for the same if not more $ than the sellers who actually spend the time to build a robust and beautiful system which will last years into the future. At the end of the day, items are worth what someone's willing to pay. If someone really did buy that Q700 for $1000, it was worth it to them.<br />
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2727				<div class="bbWrapper">I agree.   I generally value my own labor at zero because it’s a hobby I enjoy.  I buy caps in bulk to keep costs down.  The $1000 for a nicely restored Q700 is not insane.<br />
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2729I’ve generally sold within the community, trying to sell as close to cost as possible ( recapped analog and logic board SE/30s for $250 to $300, fully recappped color Classics for $300-350).  I think I was just surprised by not just the outliers on pricing on eBay, but it seems to frequently be that the outliers are generally the same few sellers.   It just seems odd that the seller who always seems to get 2-5x the going rate are almost always the same group.  Maybe they just have a reputation for their restorations and they have better listings.  <br />
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3015			I've found about 5 sellers (including the one we all know about, Mr. Goldman) that seem to be selling for extremely high prices. Now, many are fully restored and seem to be in good shape, but the prices seem unreasonable, even for eBay.
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3019</blockquote>I'm not going to go into the details and teach other people how to do it, but there are at least two ways to produce inflated, untruthful completed listings due to something of a bug in eBay.<br />
3020<br />
3021Goldman in particular is running a number of games, not just limited to his multiple accounts attempting to normalise his prices.<br />
3022<br />
3023There should be a sticky about Goldman and how he treats people he does deals with, specifically people he buys from (as he seems to treat customers better other than fleecing them).<br />
3024<br />
3025If you dig around on Goldman's completed listings, if I remember correctly, you'll find a fairly mundane computer that &quot;apparently&quot; sold for over $30k. Tens of thousands anyway. Perhaps it isn't visible any more, but it used to be.</div>
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3342			I've got a side project where I am tracking sold prices on eBay and using it to provide an, albeit somewhat high estimate on going prices for vintage computers. And I've noticed there's some sellers on eBay that seem to have astronomically high sold prices on their eBay listings. These are confirmed sale prices, which I can confirm in the seller's hub research page that shows they are actually sale prices, not the original price before a best offer The problem is I can't figure out if they aren't real sales, what the benefit would be to the seller? They would have to pay high sales fees. And I don't think they're shifing the perceived market price for any of these machines meaningfully.
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3346A clear benefit to the seller of collectibles (in general, not just our obsessions) with wildly inflated prices that are verified would very likely be money laundering activity. Self dealing on things like vintage cameras, lenses and whatnot are often efforts to keep sales pricing high overall in my estimation, if not for money laundering. Collectable camera/lens prices plummeted with increased, easily searchable supply with no such increase in demand.<br />
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3844			<div class="uix_noticeIcon">
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3846					<i class="fa--xf far fa-info-circle" aria-hidden="true"></i>
3847				
3848			</div>
3849
3850			
3851			<div class="notice-content">
3852				
3853				<div class="">
3854	Cookies help personalize content and keep you logged in if you register.<br />
3855By using this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
3856</div>
3857
3858<div class="u-inputSpacer u-alignCenter uix_cookieButtonRow">
3859	<a href="/account/dismiss-notice" class="js-noticeDismiss button--notice button button--icon button--icon--confirm"><span class="button-text">Accept</span></a>
3860	<a href="/help/cookies" class="button--notice button"><span class="button-text">Learn more…</span></a>
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3862			</div>
3863		</div>
3864	</li>
3865
3866			
3867		</ul>
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3872
3873		
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3874	if (typeof (window.themehouse) !== 'object') {
3875		window.themehouse = {};
3876	}
3877	if (typeof (window.themehouse.settings) !== 'object') {
3878		window.themehouse.settings = {};
3879	}
3880	window.themehouse.settings = {
3881		common: {
3882			'20210125': {
3883				init: false,
3884			},
3885		},
3886		data: {
3887			version: '2.2.6.0.0',
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3889			templateVersion: '2.1.8.0_Release',
3890			betaMode: 0,
3891			theme: '',
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3913		checkRadius: {
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3915			selectors: '.p-footer-inner, .uix_extendedFooter, .p-nav, .p-sectionLinks, .p-staffBar, .p-header, #wpadminbar',
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3938			   console.log('Error caught', e);
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3946			if (jsVersionSplit.length) {
3947				jsVersionPrefix = jsVersionSplit[0];
3948			}
3949		}
3950		var templateVersionPrefix = 'No JS Template Version';
3951		if (typeof(window.themehouse.settings.data.templateVersion) === 'string') {
3952			var templateVersionSplit = window.themehouse.settings.data.templateVersion.split('_');
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3959			var splitTemplateVersion = templateVersionPrefix.split('.');
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3968	
3968<script src="/js/vendor/vendor-compiled.js?_v=ce0325cd"></script>
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3969	
3969<script src="/js/xf/core-compiled.js?_v=ce0325cd"></script>
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3971<script src="/js/xf/notice.min.js?_v=ce0325cd"></script>
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3972<script src="/js/themehouse/abyss/ripple.min.js?_v=ce0325cd"></script>
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3973<script src="/js/themehouse/global/20210125.min.js?_v=ce0325cd"></script>
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3974<script src="/js/themehouse/abyss/index.min.js?_v=ce0325cd"></script>
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3974
3975<script src="/js/themehouse/abyss/vendor/parallax/parallax.min.js?_v=ce0325cd"></script>
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3976<script src="/js/themehouse/abyss/vendor/hover-intent/jquery.hoverIntent.min.js?_v=ce0325cd"></script>
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3976
3977<script>
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3979	// detect android device. Added to fix the dark pixel bug https://github.com/Audentio/xf2theme-issues/issues/1055
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3981	$(document).ready(function() {
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3985	if(isAndroid) {
3986	$('html').addClass('device--isAndroid');
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3989
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3990
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3993		$(document).ready(function() {
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3997		$('.uix_sidebarCanvasTrigger').click(function(e) {
3998		e.preventDefault();
3999		sidebar.addClass('offCanvasMenu offCanvasMenu--blocks is-active is-transitioning');
4000		$('body').addClass('sideNav--open');
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4002		window.setTimeout(function() {
4003		sidebar.removeClass('is-transitioning');
4004		}, 250);
4005
4006		$('.uix_sidebarInner').addClass('offCanvasMenu-content');
4007		backdrop.addClass('offCanvasMenu-backdrop');
4008		$('body').addClass('is-modalOpen');
4009		});
4010
4011		backdrop.click(function() {
4012		sidebar.addClass('is-transitioning');
4013		sidebar.removeClass('is-active');
4014
4015		window.setTimeout(function() {
4016		sidebar.removeClass('offCanvasMenu offCanvasMenu--blocks is-transitioning');
4017		$('.uix_sidebarInner').removeClass('offCanvasMenu-content');
4018		backdrop.removeClass('offCanvasMenu-backdrop');
4019		$('body').removeClass('is-modalOpen');
4020		}, 250);
4021		})
4022		});
4023	
4024</script>
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4028	$(document).ready(function() {
4029	var panels = {
4030	navigation: {
4031	position: 1
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4033	account: {
4034	position: 2
4035	},
4036	inbox: {
4037	position: 3
4038	},
4039	alerts: {
4040	position: 4
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4044
4045	var tabsContainer = $('.sidePanel__tabs');
4046
4047	var activeTab = 'navigation';
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4049	var activeTabPosition = panels[activeTab].position;
4050
4051	var generateDirections = function() {
4052	$('.sidePanel__tabPanel').each(function() {
4053	var tabPosition = $(this).attr('data-content');
4054	var activeTabPosition = panels[activeTab].position;
4055
4056	if (tabPosition != activeTab) {
4057	if (panels[tabPosition].position < activeTabPosition) {
4058														 $(this).addClass('is-left');
4059														 }
4060
4061														 if (panels[tabPosition].position > activeTabPosition) {
4062	$(this).addClass('is-right');
4063	}
4064	}
4065	});
4066	};
4067
4068	generateDirections();
4069
4070	$('.sidePanel__tab').click(function() {
4071	$(tabsContainer).find('.sidePanel__tab').removeClass('sidePanel__tab--active');
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4073
4074	activeTab = $(this).attr('data-attr');
4075
4076	$('.sidePanel__tabPanel').removeClass('is-active');
4077
4078	$('.sidePanel__tabPanel[data-content="' + activeTab + '"]').addClass('is-active');
4079	$('.sidePanel__tabPanel').removeClass('is-left').removeClass('is-right');
4080	generateDirections();
4081	});
4082	});
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4090	init: function(e) {},
4091
4092	click: function(e)
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4094	var parent =  this.$target.parents('.message-user');
4095	var triggerContainer = this.$target.parent('.thThreads__userExtra--toggle');
4096	var container = triggerContainer.siblings('.thThreads__message-userExtras');
4097	var child = container.find('.message-userExtras');
4098	var eleHeight = child.height();
4099	if (parent.hasClass('userExtra--expand')) {
4100	container.css({ height: eleHeight });
4101	parent.toggleClass('userExtra--expand');
4102	window.setTimeout(function() {
4103	container.css({ height: '0' });
4104	window.setTimeout(function() {
4105	container.css({ height: '' });
4106	}, 200);
4107	}, 17);
4108
4109	} else {
4110	container.css({ height: eleHeight });
4111	window.setTimeout(function() {
4112	parent.toggleClass('userExtra--expand');
4113	container.css({ height: '' });
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4115	}
4116	}
4117	});
4118
4119	XF.Click.register('ththreads-userextra-trigger', 'XF.thThreadsUserExtraTrigger');
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4123
4124	$(document).ready(function() {
4125	if ( 0 ) {
4126
4127	$("body").addClass('uix__hasBackstretch');
4128
4129	$("body").backstretch([
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4131	], {
4132	duration: 4000,
4133	fade: 500
4134	});
4135
4136	$("body").css("zIndex","");
4137	}
4138	});
4139
4140	// sidenav canvas blur fix
4141
4142	$(document).ready(function(){
4143	$('.p-body-sideNavTrigger .button').click(function(){
4144	$('body').addClass('sideNav--open');
4145	});
4146	})
4147
4148	$(document).ready(function(){
4149	$("[data-ocm-class='offCanvasMenu-backdrop']").click(function(){
4150	$('body').removeClass('sideNav--open');
4151	});
4152	})
4153
4154	$(document).on('editor:start', function (m, ed) {
4155	if (typeof (m) !== 'undefined' && typeof (m.target) !== 'undefined') {
4156	var ele = $(m.target);
4157	if (ele.hasClass('js-editor')) {
4158	var wrapper = ele.closest('.message-editorWrapper');
4159	if (wrapper.length) {
4160	window.setTimeout(function() {
4161	var innerEle = wrapper.find('.fr-element');
4162	if (innerEle.length) {
4163	innerEle.focus(function (e) {
4164	$('html').addClass('uix_editor--focused')
4165	});
4166	innerEle.blur(function (e) {
4167	$('html').removeClass('uix_editor--focused')
4168	});
4169	}
4170	}, 0);
4171	}
4172	}
4173	}
4174	});
4175
4176	// off canvas menu closer keyboard shortcut
4177	$(document).ready(function() {
4178	$(document.body).onPassive('keyup', function(e) {
4179	switch (e.key) {
4180	case 'Escape':
4181	$('.offCanvasMenu.is-active .offCanvasMenu-backdrop').click();
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4184	});
4185	});
4186	
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4187
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4189
4190			var parallaxSelector = ".uix_headerContainer"
4191			var parallaxImage = "/styles/abyss/abyss/tinker_bg.jpg"
4192			var parallaxPosition = "top"
4193			$(parallaxSelector).parallax({imageSrc: parallaxImage, positionY: parallaxPosition});
4194		
4195</script>
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4195
4196<script>
4197
4198		$(document).ready(function() {
4199		var uixMegaHovered = false;
4200		$('.uix-navEl--hasMegaMenu').hoverIntent({
4201		over: function() {
4202		if (uixMegaHovered) {
4203		menu = $(this).attr('data-nav-id');
4204
4205		$('.p-nav').addClass('uix_showMegaMenu');
4206
4207		$('.uix_megaMenu__content').removeClass('uix_megaMenu__content--active');
4208
4209		$('.uix_megaMenu__content--' + menu).addClass('uix_megaMenu__content--active');
4210		}
4211		},
4212		timeout: 200,
4213		});
4214
4215		$('.p-nav').mouseenter(function() {
4216		uixMegaHovered = true;
4217		});
4218
4219		$('.p-nav').mouseleave(function() {
4220		$(this).removeClass('uix_showMegaMenu');
4221		uixMegaHovered = false;
4222		});
4223		});
4224	
4225</script>
vendor: 1 bytes, line 4225
4225
4226<script>
4227
4228			/******** signature collapse toggle ***********/
4229			$(window).on('load', function() {
4230			window.setTimeout(function() {
4231			var maxHeight = 100;
4232
4233			/*** check if expandable ***/
4234			var eles = [];
4235
4236			$('.message-signature').each(function() {
4237			var height = $(this).height();
4238			if (height > maxHeight) {
4239			eles.push($(this));
4240			}
4241			});
4242
4243			for (var i = 0; i < eles.length; i++) {
4244											eles[i].addClass('message-signature--expandable');
4245											};
4246
4247											/**** expand function ***/
4248											var expand = function(container, canClose) {
4249											var inner = container.find('.bbWrapper');
4250											var eleHeight = inner.height();
4251											var isExpanded = container.hasClass('message-signature--expanded');
4252
4253											if (isExpanded) {
4254											if (canClose) {
4255											container.css({ height: eleHeight });
4256											container.removeClass('message-signature--expanded');
4257											window.setTimeout(function() {
4258											container.css({ height: maxHeight });
4259											window.setTimeout(function() {
4260											container.css({ height: '' });
4261											}, 200);
4262											}, 17);					
4263											}
4264
4265											} else {
4266											container.css({ height: eleHeight });
4267											window.setTimeout(function() {
4268											container.addClass('message-signature--expanded');
4269											container.css({ height: '' });
4270											}, 200);
4271											}
4272											}
4273
4274											/*** handle hover ***/
4275											
4276
4277		/*** handle click ***/
4278		$('.uix_signatureExpand').click(function() {
4279		var container =  $(this).parent('.message-signature');
4280		expand(container, true);
4281		});
4282		}, 0);
4283		});
4284		
4285</script>
vendor: 1 bytes, line 4285
4285
4286<script>
4287
4288		$(document).ready(function() {
4289			setTimeout(function () { 
4290				var editor = XF.getEditorInContainer($(document));
4291				if (!!editor) {
4292					editor.ed.events.on('focus', function() { 
4293						$('.uix_fabBar').css('display', 'none');
4294					})
4295					editor.ed.events.on('blur', function() { 
4296						$('.uix_fabBar').css('display', '');
4297					})
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4301	
4302</script>
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4302
4303<script>
4304
4305$(document).on('ajax:complete', function(e, xhr, status)
4306{
4307    var data = xhr.responseJSON;
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4309    {
4310        return;
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4312    if (data.visitor)
4313    {
4314        $('.js-uix_badge--totalUnread').data('badge', data.visitor.total_unread);
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4317	
4318</script>
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4320	
4321	
4322
4323	
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4325
4326<script src="/js/themehouse/abyss/defer.min.js?_v=ce0325cd" defer></script>
4326
4327
4328
4329	
4330<script src="/js/themehouse/abyss/deferFab.min.js?_v=ce0325cd" defer></script>
4330
4331
4332
4333	
4334<script src="/js/themehouse/abyss/deferNodesCollapse.min.js?_v=ce0325cd" defer></script>
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4336
4337	
4338<script src="/js/themehouse/abyss/deferWidthToggle.min.js?_v=ce0325cd" defer></script>
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4382				fullBase: 'https://tinkerdifferent.com/',
4383				basePath: '/',
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4385				keepAlive: '/login/keep-alive'
4386			},
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4388				path: '/',
4389				domain: '',
4390				prefix: 'xf_',
4391				secure: true
4392			},
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4394			csrf: '1790274842,9fc5592db1e28935ca48cc71d6108aa0',
4395			js: {"\/js\/xf\/lightbox-compiled.js?_v=ce0325cd":true,"\/js\/xf\/notice.min.js?_v=ce0325cd":true,"\/js\/themehouse\/abyss\/ripple.min.js?_v=ce0325cd":true,"\/js\/themehouse\/global\/20210125.min.js?_v=ce0325cd":true,"\/js\/themehouse\/abyss\/index.min.js?_v=ce0325cd":true,"\/js\/themehouse\/abyss\/vendor\/parallax\/parallax.min.js?_v=ce0325cd":true,"\/js\/themehouse\/abyss\/vendor\/hover-intent\/jquery.hoverIntent.min.js?_v=ce0325cd":true},
4396			css: {"public:CMTV_Badges.less":true,"public:bb_code.less":true,"public:lightbox.less":true,"public:message.less":true,"public:notices.less":true,"public:share_controls.less":true,"public:th_uix_threadStarterPost.less":true,"public:uix.less":true,"public:uix_extendedFooter.less":true,"public:uix_socialMedia.less":true,"public:xenith.less":true,"public:extra.less":true},
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4398				now: 1790274842,
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4400				todayDow: 4,
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4402				yesterday: 1790118000,
4403				week: 1789686000
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4405			borderSizeFeature: '2px',
4406			fontAwesomeWeight: 'r',
4407			enableRtnProtect: true,
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4409			enableFormSubmitSticky: true,
4410			uploadMaxFilesize: 67108864,
4411			allowedVideoExtensions: ["m4v","mov","mp4","mp4v","mpeg","mpg","ogv","webm"],
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4416				alerts_unviewed: '0',
4417				total_unread: '0',
4418				title_count: true,
4419				icon_indicator: true
4420			},
4421			jsState: {},
4422			publicMetadataLogoUrl: 'https://tinkerdifferent.com/data/assets/logo/tinker_stacked.png',
4423			publicPushBadgeUrl: 'https://tinkerdifferent.com/styles/default/xenforo/bell.png'
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4426		jQuery.extend(XF.phrases, {
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4431			x_minutes_ago:    "{minutes} minutes ago",
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4437			in_x_minutes:     "In {minutes} minutes",
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4440
4441			day0: "Sunday",
4442			day1: "Monday",
4443			day2: "Tuesday",
4444			day3: "Wednesday",
4445			day4: "Thursday",
4446			day5: "Friday",
4447			day6: "Saturday",
4448
4449			dayShort0: "Sun",
4450			dayShort1: "Mon",
4451			dayShort2: "Tue",
4452			dayShort3: "Wed",
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