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1752Here is an example of a listing by 1 of the sellers that always has extremely high prices,. In this example, it's $1000 for a quadra 700: <a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/327253666010?nordt=true" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://www.ebay.com/itm/327253666010?nordt=true</a><br /> 1753<br /> 1754I've found about 5 sellers (including the one we all know about, Mr. Goldman) that seem to be selling for extremely high prices. Now, many are fully restored and seem to be in good shape, but the prices seem unreasonable, even for eBay. <br /> 1755<br /> 1756And if any of the sellers are people here, I apologize (maybe I should list for higher prices when selling fully recapped and restored machines with BlueSCSIs, maxed RAM?). <br /> 1757<br /> 1758I'm just curious because I don't understand if they aren't real sales, what would be in it for the sellers, considering I don't see them selling other items for less crazy prices, so it doesn't seem to be immediately helping the sellers, and would, in theory, cost them a decent amount in seller fees (~ $200-250 for that $1000 listing). <br /> 1759<br /> 1760What am I missing?</div> 1761 1762 <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> 1763 1764 1765 1766 </article> 1767 1768 1769 1770 1771 1772 1773 1774 1775 1776 </div> 1777 1778 1779 1780 1781 1782 1783 <div class="message-lastEdit"> 1784 1785 Last edited: <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2026-09-23T23:51:29+0100" data-time="1790203889" data-date-string="Sep 23, 2026" data-time-string="11:51 PM" title="Sep 23, 2026 at 11:51 PM" itemprop="dateModified">Yesterday at 11:51 PM</time> 1786 1787 </div> 1788 1789 1790 1791 1792 1793 1794 1795 1796 1797 1798 1799 </div> 1800 1801 <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> 1802 1803 1804 1805 <ul class="reactionSummary"> 1806 1807 <li><span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1"><i aria-hidden="true"></i><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" alt="Like" title="Like" /></span></li> 1808 1809 </ul> 1810 1811 1812 1813<span class="u-srOnly">Reactions:</span> 1814<a class="reactionsBar-link" href="/posts/50135/reactions" data-xf-click="overlay" data-cache="false" rel="nofollow"><bdi>phunguss</bdi></a> 1815 </div> 1816 1817 1818 1819 <footer class="message-footer"> 1820 1821 1822 1823 1824 <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> 1825 </footer> 1826 1827 1828 </div> 1829 1830 1831 </div> 1832 1833 </div> 1834 1835 </article> 1836 1837 1838 1839 1840 1841 1842 1843 1844 1845 1846 1847 1848 1849 1850 1851 1852 1853 1854 1855 1856 1857 1858 1859 1860 1861 <article class="message message-threadStarterPost message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " 1862 data-author="wottle" 1863 data-content="post-50136" 1864 id="js-post-50136"> 1865 1866 <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-50136"></span> 1867 1868 1869 <div class="message-inner"> 1870 1871 <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> 1872 1873 1874 <section itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" class="message-user userExtra--expand"> 1875 <div class="message-avatar "> 1876 <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> 1877 1878 <a href="/members/wottle.183/" class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="183" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> 1879 <img src="/data/avatars/m/0/183.jpg?1635990281" srcset="/data/avatars/l/0/183.jpg?1635990281 2x" alt="wottle" class="avatar-u183-m" width="96" height="96" loading="lazy" itemprop="image" /> 1880 </a> 1881 1882 1883 </div> 1884 </div> 1885 <div class="uix_messagePostBitWrapper"> 1886 <div class="message-userDetails"> 1887 <h4 class="message-name"><a href="/members/wottle.183/" class="username " dir="auto" itemprop="name" data-user-id="183" data-xf-init="member-tooltip">wottle</a></h4> 1888 <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">Active Tinkerer</h5> 1889 1890 1891 1892 <div class="uix_originalPoster__icon" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Original poster"> 1893 <i class="fa--xf far fa-user-edit mdi mdi-account-edit" aria-hidden="true"></i> 1894 </div> 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 </div> 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 <div class="thThreads__message-userExtras"> 1906 1907 <div class="message-userExtras"> 1908 1909
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Looks nice otherwise. I've sold computer items on eBay myself, though not recently due to lack of available time. What I will say is that if I spend a couple weeks on a restoration and end up with a museum quality piece at the end, I'd want to maximize the sale price as much as possible. Even if said machine sold for $2000, the labor hours, materials, supplies, etc would still likely yield me an overall loss. Oh well, I am proud of the work I do and the end result.<br /> 2409<br /> 2410What has bugged me about Polka in the past is he doesn't seem to restore or repair any machines, but still asks for the same if not more $ than the sellers who actually spend the time to build a robust and beautiful system which will last years into the future. At the end of the day, items are worth what someone's willing to pay. If someone really did buy that Q700 for $1000, it was worth it to them.<br /> 2411<br /> 2412I'll get off my soap box now!</div> 2413 2414 <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> 2415 2416 2417 2418 </article> 2419 2420 2421 2422 2423 </div> 2424 2425 2426 2427 2428 2429 2430 2431 2432 2433 2434 2435 2436 2437 2438 2439 2440 </div> 2441 2442 <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> 2443 2444 2445 2446 <ul class="reactionSummary"> 2447 2448 <li><span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1"><i aria-hidden="true"></i><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" alt="Like" title="Like" /></span></li> 2449 2450 </ul> 2451 2452 2453 2454<span class="u-srOnly">Reactions:</span> 2455<a class="reactionsBar-link" href="/posts/50154/reactions" data-xf-click="overlay" data-cache="false" rel="nofollow"><bdi>phunguss</bdi></a> 2456 </div> 2457 2458 2459 2460 <footer class="message-footer"> 2461 2462 2463 2464 2465 <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> 2466 </footer> 2467 2468 2469 </div> 2470 2471 2472 </div> 2473 2474 </div> 2475 2476 </article> 2477 2478 2479 2480 2481 2482 2483 2484 2485 2486 2487 2488 2489 2490 2491 2492 2493 2494 2495 2496 2497 2498 2499 2500 2501 2502 <article class="message message-threadStarterPost message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " 2503 data-author="wottle" 2504 data-content="post-50155" 2505 id="js-post-50155"> 2506 2507 <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-50155"></span> 2508 2509 2510 <div class="message-inner"> 2511 2512 <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> 2513 2514 2515 <section itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" class="message-user userExtra--expand"> 2516 <div class="message-avatar "> 2517 <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> 2518 2519 <a href="/members/wottle.183/" class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="183" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> 2520 <img src="/data/avatars/m/0/183.jpg?1635990281" srcset="/data/avatars/l/0/183.jpg?1635990281 2x" alt="wottle" class="avatar-u183-m" width="96" height="96" loading="lazy" itemprop="image" />
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2729Iâve generally sold within the community, trying to sell as close to cost as possible ( recapped analog and logic board SE/30s for $250 to $300, fully recappped color Classics for $300-350). I think I was just surprised by not just the outliers on pricing on eBay, but it seems to frequently be that the outliers are generally the same few sellers. It just seems odd that the seller who always seems to get 2-5x the going rate are almost always the same group. Maybe they just have a reputation for their restorations and they have better listings. <br /> 2730<br /> 2731Iâm certainly not trying to say restorers shouldnât be paid appropriately for their time, so I hope my post didnât come across that way.</div> 2732 2733 <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> 2734 2735 2736 2737 </article> 2738 2739 2740 2741 2742 </div> 2743 2744 2745 2746 2747 2748 2749 2750 2751 2752 2753 2754 2755 2756 2757 2758 2759 </div> 2760 2761 <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> 2762 2763 </div> 2764 2765 2766 2767 <footer class="message-footer"> 2768 2769 2770 2771 2772 <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> 2773 </footer> 2774 2775 2776 </div> 2777 2778 2779 </div> 2780 2781 </div> 2782 2783 </article> 2784 2785 2786 2787 2788 2789 2790 2791 2792 2793 2794 2795 2796 2797 2798 2799 2800 2801 2802 2803 2804 2805 2806 2807 <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " 2808 data-author="phipli" 2809 data-content="post-50156" 2810 id="js-post-50156"> 2811 2812 <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-50156"></span> 2813 2814 2815 <div class="message-inner"> 2816 2817 <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> 2818 2819 2820 <section itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" class="message-user userExtra--expand"> 2821 <div class="message-avatar "> 2822 <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> 2823 2824 <a href="/members/phipli.19/" class="avatar avatar--m avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="19" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" style="background-color: #558b2f; 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Now, many are fully restored and seem to be in good shape, but the prices seem unreasonable, even for eBay. 3016 </div> 3017 <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> 3018 </div> 3019</blockquote>I'm not going to go into the details and teach other people how to do it, but there are at least two ways to produce inflated, untruthful completed listings due to something of a bug in eBay.<br /> 3020<br /> 3021Goldman in particular is running a number of games, not just limited to his multiple accounts attempting to normalise his prices.<br /> 3022<br /> 3023There should be a sticky about Goldman and how he treats people he does deals with, specifically people he buys from (as he seems to treat customers better other than fleecing them).<br /> 3024<br /> 3025If you dig around on Goldman's completed listings, if I remember correctly, you'll find a fairly mundane computer that "apparently" sold for over $30k. Tens of thousands anyway. Perhaps it isn't visible any more, but it used to be.</div> 3026 3027 <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> 3028 3029 3030 3031 </article> 3032 3033 3034 3035 3036 </div> 3037 3038 3039 3040 3041 3042 3043 <div class="message-lastEdit"> 3044 3045 Last edited: <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2026-09-24T14:56:44+0100" data-time="1790258204" data-date-string="Sep 24, 2026" data-time-string="2:56 PM" title="Sep 24, 2026 at 2:56 PM" itemprop="dateModified">Today at 2:56 PM</time> 3046 3047 </div> 3048 3049 3050 3051 3052 3053 3054 3055 3056 3057 3058 3059 </div> 3060 3061 <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> 3062 3063 3064 3065 <ul class="reactionSummary"> 3066 3067 <li><span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1"><i aria-hidden="true"></i><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="reaction-sprite js-reaction" alt="Like" title="Like" /></span></li> 3068 3069 </ul> 3070 3071 3072 3073<span class="u-srOnly">Reactions:</span> 3074<a class="reactionsBar-link" href="/posts/50156/reactions" data-xf-click="overlay" data-cache="false" rel="nofollow"><bdi>wottle</bdi></a> 3075 </div> 3076 3077 3078 3079 <footer class="message-footer"> 3080 3081 3082 3083 3084 <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> 3085 </footer> 3086 3087 3088 </div> 3089 3090 3091 </div> 3092 3093 </div> 3094 3095 </article> 3096 3097 3098 3099 3100 3101 3102 3103 3104 3105 3106 3107 3108 3109 3110 3111 3112 3113 3114 3115 3116 3117 3118 3119 <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " 3120 data-author="Trash80toG4" 3121 data-content="post-50162" 3122 id="js-post-50162"> 3123 3124 <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-50162"></span> 3125 3126 3127 <div class="message-inner"> 3128 3129 <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> 3130 3131 3132 <section itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" class="message-user userExtra--expand"> 3133 <div class="message-avatar "> 3134 <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> 3135 3136 <a href="/members/trash80tog4.624/" class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="624" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> 3137 <img src="/data/avatars/m/0/624.jpg?1651606473" srcset="/data/avatars/l/0/624.jpg?1651606473 2x" alt="Trash80toG4" class="avatar-u624-m" width="96" height="96" loading="lazy" itemprop="image" />
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And I've noticed there's some sellers on eBay that seem to have astronomically high sold prices on their eBay listings. These are confirmed sale prices, which I can confirm in the seller's hub research page that shows they are actually sale prices, not the original price before a best offer The problem is I can't figure out if they aren't real sales, what the benefit would be to the seller? They would have to pay high sales fees. And I don't think they're shifing the perceived market price for any of these machines meaningfully. 3343 </div> 3344 <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> 3345 </div> 3346</blockquote>
3346A clear benefit to the seller of collectibles (in general, not just our obsessions) with wildly inflated prices that are verified would very likely be money laundering activity. Self dealing on things like vintage cameras, lenses and whatnot are often efforts to keep sales pricing high overall in my estimation, if not for money laundering. Collectable camera/lens prices plummeted with increased, easily searchable supply with no such increase in demand.<br /> 3347<br /> 3348IMO, eBay has been the most massive fencing operation since its inception. It's also a great conduit for money laundering.</div> 3349 3350 <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> 3351 3352 3353 3354 </article> 3355 3356 3357 3358 3359 </div> 3360 3361 3362 3363 3364 3365 3366 3367 3368 3369 3370 3371 3372 3373 3374 3375 3376 </div> 3377 3378 <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> 3379 3380 </div> 3381 3382 3383 3384 <footer class="message-footer"> 3385 3386 3387 3388 3389 <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> 3390 </footer> 3391 3392 3393 </div> 3394 3395 3396 </div> 3397 3398 </div> 3399 3400 </article> 3401 3402 3403 3404 3405 3406 3407 3408 3409 3410 3411 </div> 3412 </div> 3413 3414 3415 <div class="block-outer block-outer--after"> 3416 3417 3418 3419 3420 3421 <div class="block-outer-opposite"> 3422 3423 <a href="/login/" class="button--link button--wrap button" data-xf-click="overlay"><span class="button-text"> 3424 You must log in or register to reply here. 3425 </span></a> 3426 3427 </div> 3428 3429 3430 </div> 3431 3432 3433 3434 3435 3436</div> 3437 3438 3439 3440 3441 3442 3443 3444 3445 3446 3447 3448<div class="blockMessage blockMessage--none"> 3449 3450 3451 3452 3453 3454 <div class="shareButtons shareButtons--iconic" data-xf-init="share-buttons" data-page-url="" data-page-title="" data-page-desc="" data-page-image=""> 3455 3456 <span class="shareButtons-label">Share:</span> 3457 3458 3459 <div class="shareButtons-buttons"> 3460 3461 3462 <a class="shareButtons-button shareButtons-button--brand shareButtons-button--facebook" data-href="https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u={url}"> 3463 <i aria-hidden="true"></i> 3464 <span>Facebook</span> 3465 </a> 3466 3467 3468 3469 <a class="shareButtons-button shareButtons-button--brand shareButtons-button--twitter" data-href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url={url}&
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