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393      <p>We want engineering teams to be as autonomous as possible, but also want that every team runs in the same direction. In this episode, Heinrich Hartmann and Sven Joh
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490<p>
490How do teams actually make better architectural decisions—without gatekeepers, power imbalances, or meetings full of opinions instead of insights?</p>
491
492<p>In this episode, Andrew, Heinrich, Sven and Alex discuss how the advice process, architecture decision records, and practiced sociotechnics help to make software architecture collaborative and transparent.</p>
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499        <a href="/59-data-marketplace-data-products-and-data-contracts">Data Marketplace, Data Products and Data Contracts</a>
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587      <p>Alex, Heinrich and Sven talk with Simon Harrer about his journey to data contracts and marketplaces from being PhD in Software Engineering and Software Engineering consultant. They discuss what a data contract is and how it is build up, can be discovered in a data marketplace and how it relates to a data product. They close with the unavoidable MCP topic in the context of a data marketplace.</p>
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