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539 <div id="content" class="site-content"> 540 <div class="hm-container"> 541 542 <div id="primary" class="content-area"> 543 <main id="main" class="site-main" role="main"> 544 545 546<article id="post-2" class="hitmag-page post-2 page type-page status-publish hentry tag-debt tag-deficit tag-deficit-spending tag-economics tag-economy tag-fiat-currency tag-floating-exchange-rate tag-govenment-spending-constraints tag-government-bond tag-macroeconomic-theory tag-macroeconomics tag-mmt tag-modern-monetary-theory tag-public-purpose tag-tax tag-taxation tag-uk-government-spending"> 547 548 549 550 <header class="entry-header"> 551 <h1 class="entry-title">Modern Monetary Theory – a brief introduction</h1> </header><!-- .entry-header --> 552 553 554 555 <div class="entry-content"> 556 <p>What is âthe economyâ? If you listened to any Chancellor since the late 70s, you would be forgiven for gaining the impression that it is all about âdebtâ and âdeficitâ and how the country has to âlive within its meansâ and âpay down its credit cardâ. But under these conditions inequality has soared, public services have been de-funded, the UK failed to recover its living standards post-2008-crash, and it has suffered the biggest drop in average real wages of any OECD country except Greece.</p> 557<p>Whilst accepting that living within your means may be a good rule for households, the reality is that a government like ours, with its own currency and its own central bank, is not at all like a household. The economy is a far broader subject, covering not just what the government spends but what we spend too, as private individuals and the wider non-governmental sector, including how much debt we get into. After all, it was private debt, not public, that caused the 2008 crash.</p> 558<p>It is time for the public to have a better understanding to replace the clichés about the government âhaving no money of its ownâ. In a sovereign currency nation like the UK with its own central bank it is, in fact, the sole currency issuer. Its spending is not limited by its ability to tax.</p> 559<p>MMT is not a political theory, but a description of how money creation works and why missing it out of the economic equation leaves classical economic thinking disconnected from the real world; while the real world suffers from that disconnect in terms of unemployment, loss of key services and environmental degradation.</p> 560<p>The conventional view is that public spending must be paid for through taxation, government sales of assets, and issuing government bonds â in other words, through taxes now, âselling off the family silverâ now, or borrowing money now at interest which will have to be repaid in the future, which is presumed to create a burden of additional taxation for future generations.</p> 561<p>A right-wing response to this conventional position might be an austerity programme to keep government spending down, and privatisation, in order to keep taxes low; or a left-wing one, which is to say tax the rich and the multinationals much more highly, because the Government needs more money from the rich so it can pay for our public services.</p> 562<p>Both the right and left-wing reactions are wrong, or at least misleading. They are based on the conventional view of public sector finance which is accepted as being valid by many people on all shades of the political spectrum. It is a view which a majority of highly credentialed economists, including Nobel Prize winners, knows to be incorrect, but which many of them justify as a mechanism for imposing some restraint on politicians. They believe that if politicians knew the financial options which are actually available to them, they would abuse these freedoms, spend like drunken sailorsâ, and wreck the economy.</p> 563<p>The sets of conventions and rules which have been applied down the last few decades, particularly since 1979, have, to a greater or lesser extent, obscured the truth which can be summarised in two âlawsâ of public finance.</p> 564<p>1) A government with its own currency (e.g., sterling), its own central bank (e.g., the Bank of England), floating exchange rate, and no foreign currency debt, faces no financial budget constraint at all.</p> 565<p>2) Such a government faces real and ecological constraints. As a society, we cannot run out of pounds, but we can run out of â or misuse –
565 people, skills, technology, infrastructure, natural and ecological resources. There are limits, but the limits are ârealâ and not financial. Governments should therefore focus their policies on human and ecological resources, not the deficit.</p> 566<p>We have to be clear that nothing in the above restricts any policy choices that any government may make. A party intent on low state intervention, allowing private sector providers to compete for public service contracts and a low tax regime has as much right to their political stance as a statist one or one which promotes subsidiarity or full public ownership. However, all should be obliged to argue their case on grounds other than âaffordabilityâ, âsustainabilityâ and âhow are you going to pay for itâ.</p> 567<p>In the video below, Professor Stephanie Kelton speaks on why a government budget should not be looked at in the same way as a household budget. Professor Kelton gave this talk as part of the lecture series between UCL Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose (IIPP) and the British Library in 2018.</p> 568<p> </p> 569<div class="jetpack-video-wrapper"><iframe title="Stephanie Kelton: The Public Purse" width="735" height="413" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/6IBEoWSiTHc?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe></div> 570<p> </p> 571<h6><strong>Download this page as a pdf <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/GIMMS-pdf-MMT-Basics.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a></strong></h6> 572 </div><!-- .entry-content --> 573 574 575 576 577</article><!-- #post-## --> 578<div id="comments" class="comments-area"> 579 580 <h3 class="comments-title"> 581 28 Comments on “Modern Monetary Theory – a brief introduction” 582 </h3><!-- .comments-title --> 583 584 585 <ol class="comment-list"> 586 <li id="comment-50" class="comment even thread-even depth-1 parent"> 587 <article id="div-comment-50" class="comment-body"> 588 <footer class="comment-meta"> 589 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 590 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/38c5e25dbc18c548c3e9417e2d8fcf80f9d3c7542dde05e8809572547755f560?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/38c5e25dbc18c548c3e9417e2d8fcf80f9d3c7542dde05e8809572547755f560?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Craig Ross</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 591 592 <div class="comment-metadata"> 593 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-50"><time datetime="2019-04-30T16:17:13+01:00">30th April 2019 at 4:17 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 594 595 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 596 597 <div class="comment-content"> 598 <p>A country with its own currency never runs out of money. What it runs out of is something much more interesting: people who will accept its money. </p> 599<p>The only difference between gilts as government finance and MMT’s “money from thin air and tax if there’s an inflation problem” is that in the first case the government is making a guess – usually quite a good guess – as to how much taxation will be needed given the planned government spending. Yours is a distinction without a difference. We’ve had positive interest rates, gilt yields and inflation since the year dot. Gilt interest is just an informed guess as to the future “tax” needed. The MMT theorist doubts the inflation would ever arrive, and would only tax if it did. But the inflation has always arrived like sunrise, and gilt issuance and interest is a perennial part of the anti-inflationary landscape. It’s hard to see what real difference the adoption of MMT would make.</p> 600 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 601 602 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-50" data-commentid="50" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-50" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Craig Ross" aria-label="Reply to Craig Ross">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 603 <ol class="children">
604 <li id="comment-65" class="comment odd alt depth-2"> 605 <article id="div-comment-65" class="comment-body"> 606 <footer class="comment-meta"> 607 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 608 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/88375be8c3b4f8da1c86fbbf2721b4c566effcc1efbaab397380699572c4b35d?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/88375be8c3b4f8da1c86fbbf2721b4c566effcc1efbaab397380699572c4b35d?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Alan Luchetti</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 609 610 <div class="comment-metadata"> 611 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-65"><time datetime="2019-06-29T14:19:33+01:00">29th June 2019 at 2:19 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 612 613 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 614 615 <div class="comment-content"> 616 <p>Craig, gilt issuance and interest is a part of the anti-inflationary landscape the way stomach stapling is part of the anti-obesity landscape. Thankfully our medicos and dietitians are smarter than our economists and politicians.</p> 617 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 618 619 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-65" data-commentid="65" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-65" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Alan Luchetti" aria-label="Reply to Alan Luchetti">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 620 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 621 <li id="comment-72" class="comment even depth-2 parent"> 622 <article id="div-comment-72" class="comment-body"> 623 <footer class="comment-meta"> 624 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 625 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a48ba560c4a8db7fab42b4be8421ef4305d03f0d287a1f49d9b74072b57cd234?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a48ba560c4a8db7fab42b4be8421ef4305d03f0d287a1f49d9b74072b57cd234?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Kester</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 626 627 <div class="comment-metadata"> 628 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-72"><time datetime="2019-07-20T21:21:21+01:00">20th July 2019 at 9:21 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 629 630 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 631 632 <div class="comment-content"> 633 <p>Remember all government spend works via crediting bank accounts (put numbers up and down in the accounts) so all government spend is ‘printed money.’ The allegedly hyperinflationary printing money is debunked by this paper that says loans create deposits (also read this Bill Mitchell blog) that debunks money multiplier/high powered money:</p> 634<p><a href="https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/quarterly-bulletin/2014/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/quarterly-bulletin/2014/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy</a></p> 635<p> “Whenever a bank makes a loan, itsimultaneously creates a matching deposit in theborrowerâs bank account, thereby creating new money.The reality of how money is created today differs from thedescription found in some economics textbooks:⢠Rather than banks receiving deposits when householdssave and then lending them out, bank lending createsdeposits.⢠In normal times, the central bank does not fix the amountof money in circulation, nor is central bank moneyâmultiplied upâ into more loans and deposits”</p> 636<p><a href="http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=1623" rel="nofollow ugc">http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=1623</a></p> 637<p>“Policies such as Quantitative Easing which has been in the news lately are predicated on a mistaken belief about the way the banking system operates and how the non-government and government sectors interact. One of the hard-core parts of mainstream macroeconomic theory that gets rammed into students early on in their studies, often to their eternal disadvantage, is the concept of the money multiplier. It is a highly damaging concept because it lingers on in the studentsâ memories forever, or so it seems. It is also not even a slightly accurate depiction of the way banks operate in a modern monetary economy characterised by a fiat currency and a flexible exchange rate. So lets see why!”</p> 638<p>“The conception of the money multiplier is really as simple as that. But while simple it is also wrong to the core! What it implies is that banks first of all take deposits to get funds which they can then on-lend. But prudential regulations require they keep a little in reserve. So we get this credit creation process ballooning out due to the fractional reserve requirements.</p> 639<p>Well that is not at all like the real world. It is a stylised text-book model which isnât even close to how things actually operate. The way banks actually operate is to seek to attract credit-worthy customers to which they can loan funds to and thereby make profit. What constitutes credit-worthiness varies over the business cycle and so lending standards become more lax at boom times as banks chase market share.</p> 640<p>These loans are made independent of their reserve positions. Depending on the way the central bank accounts for commercial bank reserves, the latter will then seek funds to ensure they have the required reserves in the relevant accounting period. They can borrow from each other in the interbank market but if the system overall is short of reserves these âhorizontalâ transactions will not add the required reserves. In these cases, the bank will sell bonds back to the central bank or borrow outright through the device called the âdiscount windowâ. There is typically a penalty for using this source of funds.</p> 641<p>At the individual bank level, certainly the âprice of reservesâ will play some role in the credit departmentâs decision to loan funds. But the reserve position per se will not matter. So as long as the margin between the return on the loan and the rate they would have to borrow from the central bank through the discount window is sufficient, the bank will lend.</p> 642<p>So the idea that reserve balances are required initially to âfinanceâ bank balance sheet expansion via rising excess reserves is inapplicable. A bankâs ability to expand its balance sheet is not constrained by the quantity of reserves it holds or any fractional reserve requirements. The bank expands its balance sheet by lending. Loans create deposits which are then backed by reserves after the fact. The process of extending loans (credit) which creates new bank liabilities is unrelated to the reserve position of the bank.</p> 643<p>The major insight is that any balance sheet expansion which leaves a bank short of the required reserves may affect the return it can expect on the loan as a consequence of the âpenaltyâ rate the central bank might exact through the discount window. But it will never impede the bankâs capacity to effect the loan in the first place.”</p> 644<p>The gilt market is liquid.</p> 645 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 646 647 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-72" data-commentid="72" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-72" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Kester" aria-label="Reply to Kester">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 648 <ol class="children">
649 <li id="comment-75" class="comment odd alt depth-3 parent"> 650 <article id="div-comment-75" class="comment-body"> 651 <footer class="comment-meta"> 652 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 653 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/797e527dc6226d900b87cf88cd7d3ea2f9451e4a7463530d3b4124f0e442a43e?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/797e527dc6226d900b87cf88cd7d3ea2f9451e4a7463530d3b4124f0e442a43e?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Al</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 654 655 <div class="comment-metadata"> 656 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-75"><time datetime="2019-08-08T12:18:57+01:00">8th August 2019 at 12:18 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 657 658 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 659 660 <div class="comment-content"> 661 <p>“The process of extending loans (credit) which creates new bank liabilities is unrelated to the reserve position of the bank.”</p> 662<p>Not so. I’m afraid that statement fundamentally misunderstands how banks and payments operate.</p> 663<p>If it is true that banks have an unrestricted ability to create money, why did the Royal Bank of Scotland come within hours of running out of money in October 2008, and require a government bail-out? Because money created by banks is commercial bank money that does not circulate outside their balance sheets. Money that supports payments in the wider economy is central bank money created by the Bank of England.</p> 664<p>Yes, banks can create deposits on their books through the lending process. This is known as commercial bank money. But the bank’s customers will want to make payments to spend those deposits. At that point the customer will send a payment instruction to her bank (via a cheque, or an online payment instruction, or an instruction to make a CHAPS payment). Assuming the beneficiary banks with another bank, the payer’s bank will settle that payment using its own central bank money in its Settlement Reserve Account at the Bank of England. The bank will simultaneously debit the customer’s account, thereby destroying the money previously created. This applies to all payment channels in the UK. There is no other mechanism available.</p> 665<p>Thus the bank’s reserves are directly linked to the amount of lending they perform. Excessive lending will mean the bank is unable to settle the payment volumes that will inevitably follow.</p> 666 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 667 668 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-75" data-commentid="75" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-75" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Al" aria-label="Reply to Al">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 669 <ol class="children"> 670 <li id="comment-82" class="comment even depth-4"> 671 <article id="div-comment-82" class="comment-body"> 672 <footer class="comment-meta"> 673 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 674 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/ae296f5cc4e54751397d2eaa84a288e86526080f4e189fc18ce7a5957ba06919?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/ae296f5cc4e54751397d2eaa84a288e86526080f4e189fc18ce7a5957ba06919?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">JohnL</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 675 676 <div class="comment-metadata"> 677 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-82"><time datetime="2019-09-11T07:50:19+01:00">11th September 2019 at 7:50 am</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 678 679 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 680 681 <div class="comment-content"> 682 <p>Just a couple points Al. </p> 683<p>Banks make loans regardless of their reserve position. That is what Bill is saying. If the newly created deposits are then used to make payments to payees at another bank, that is no different if payers used existing deposits rather than the newly created ones Reserves get shuffled round the system like chips at the casino. Thatâs what banking is all about. </p> 684<p>Your statement that money created by banks is commercial bank money that does not circulate outside their balance sheets is not correct. Bank deposits whether created by a new loan or not circulate round the economy all the time. Every time it happens a bank reduces the payerâs account (
684a liability to the bank) whilst simultaneously reducing its reserve a/c (an asset of the bank). The reverse happens with the payee. Both the payeeâs bank a/c (a liability) and the payee bankâs reserve a/c (an asset) increase by the amount of payment.</p> 685<p>It is not true to say money is destroyed at the point the payer makes a payment. It is transferred to another bank.</p> 686 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 687 688 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-82" data-commentid="82" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-82" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to JohnL" aria-label="Reply to JohnL">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 689 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 690 <li id="comment-907" class="comment odd alt depth-4"> 691 <article id="div-comment-907" class="comment-body"> 692 <footer class="comment-meta"> 693 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 694 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d076c5f53dbcefa372ff4c74346a21f796cf6c6ce67c8aea8b58d0c397205db?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d076c5f53dbcefa372ff4c74346a21f796cf6c6ce67c8aea8b58d0c397205db?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Lewis</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 695 696 <div class="comment-metadata"> 697 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-907"><time datetime="2024-05-05T00:35:13+01:00">5th May 2024 at 12:35 am</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 698 699 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 700 701 <div class="comment-content"> 702 <p>Hi Al,<br /> 703Kester knows a lot more about this than you.<br /> 704Bank reserves are irrelevant – that’s why in COVID the FED could reduce the SLR to zero for a year…and no bank runs.<br /> 705Deposits are transferred into the offshore, unregulated, almost entirely unobserved Eurodollar System where a single deposit can be lent and relent (with no fraction reserved) until the same deposit can circle all the way back to the first bank who originated the first loan, and can then re-loan it!<br /> 706Such ridiculously long and circular chains of interbank liability allow the proliferation of money in this ultra complicated offshore ledger system.<br /> 707All the while credit is being created greasing the wheels of commerce (and unfortunately finance) and the Fed and any other central banks know nothing about this.<br /> 708Despite this it all works well until counterparty risk tears its ugly head and intermediaries (money lenders) stop wanting to lend; then the complex dance grinds to a halt, and we recognise all the hallmarks of a Eurodollar crisis – the first being the misnamed GFC, actually the GMonetaryC.<br /> 709We see USD (the reserve currency ) value shoot up and all others down and we see a rush for safe and liquid collateral and the failure of junk collateral which had been transformed as it was swapped for good collateral with a haircut.<br /> 710Problem is even the safe US bonds were rehypothocated and very few (relatively) treasuries were backing unfathomable amounts of debt (thanks to the long and circular chains of interbank liabilities)<br /> 711Money forward markets become increasingly negative, interest rate swaps spreads go negative, bond prices rocket as people scramble for safe and liquid and Repo fails increase.</p> 712 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 713 714 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-907" data-commentid="907" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-907" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Lewis" aria-label="Reply to Lewis">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 715 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 716</ol><!-- .children --> 717</li><!-- #comment-## --> 718 <li id="comment-736" class="comment even depth-3 parent"> 719 <article id="div-comment-736" class="comment-body"> 720 <footer class="comment-meta"> 721 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 722 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3e20ba00fc25160c3371148c064ed348b8836ae3f17294bf84f5db0a33688488?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3e20ba00fc25160c3371148c064ed348b8836ae3f17294bf84f5db0a33688488?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn"><a href="https://www.mmt.works" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">Ian Tresman</a></b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 723 724 <div class="comment-metadata"> 725 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-736"><time datetime="2022-09-04T17:37:13+01:00">4th September 2022 at 5:37 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 726 727 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 728 729 <div class="comment-content"> 730 <p>@Kester That paper’s statement that “Whenever a bank makes a loan, it simultaneously creates a matching deposit in the borrowerâs bank account, thereby creating new money.” is surely false. </p> 731<p>When I accept a loan, I not only have to pay it back, I also have to pay back interest, resulting in a net loss.</p> 732 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 733 734 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-736" data-commentid="736" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-736" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Ian Tresman" aria-label="Reply to Ian Tresman">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 735 <ol class="children">
736 <li id="comment-811" class="comment odd alt depth-4"> 737 <article id="div-comment-811" class="comment-body"> 738 <footer class="comment-meta"> 739 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 740 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/182e93c47c3c42d3270b916a31246b077d5733a48288f8d1ac6b5eee61df4648?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/182e93c47c3c42d3270b916a31246b077d5733a48288f8d1ac6b5eee61df4648?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Jim bo</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 741 742 <div class="comment-metadata"> 743 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-811"><time datetime="2023-07-23T10:39:15+01:00">23rd July 2023 at 10:39 am</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 744 745 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 746 747 <div class="comment-content"> 748 <p>No because the money you used the loan for bought something of value (the cost of the loan) which remains in the economy even after you have paid it back. Unless you just sat on the money and then gave it back.</p> 749 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 750 751 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-811" data-commentid="811" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-811" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Jim bo" aria-label="Reply to Jim bo">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 752 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 753 <li id="comment-885" class="comment even depth-4"> 754 <article id="div-comment-885" class="comment-body"> 755 <footer class="comment-meta"> 756 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 757 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/47db568df38f58a8ee80f4f8b20586205619a89c68f6f896b6dbb62021272abb?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/47db568df38f58a8ee80f4f8b20586205619a89c68f6f896b6dbb62021272abb?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">SussexTech</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 758 759 <div class="comment-metadata"> 760 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-885"><time datetime="2024-03-09T09:13:24+00:00">9th March 2024 at 9:13 am</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 761 762 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 763 764 <div class="comment-content"> 765 <p>Why is it “surely false” ? It appears to be simply a description of a process.<br /> 766What is the relevance of your point about paying interest in this context ?</p> 767 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 768 769 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-885" data-commentid="885" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-885" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to SussexTech" aria-label="Reply to SussexTech">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 770 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 771</ol><!-- .children --> 772</li><!-- #comment-## --> 773</ol><!-- .children --> 774</li><!-- #comment-## --> 775 <li id="comment-102" class="comment odd alt depth-2"> 776 <article id="div-comment-102" class="comment-body"> 777 <footer class="comment-meta"> 778 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 779 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/bb8aa6ce430f2635081285763cb3df6bf89d0a04593fa366ad318cc83efa90de?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/bb8aa6ce430f2635081285763cb3df6bf89d0a04593fa366ad318cc83efa90de?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Peter Donaldson</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 780 781 <div class="comment-metadata"> 782 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-102"><time datetime="2020-03-22T08:54:21+00:00">22nd March 2020 at 8:54 am</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 783 784 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 785 786 <div class="comment-content"> 787 <p>Gilts are money from thin air (actually keystrokes) too. They are just numbers in accounts with a rate of interest and a maturity date. They are bought with money created by keystrokes and exchanged for money created by keystrokes. The whole process simply involves changing numbers in one account up and those in another account down. </p> 788<p>Itâs keystrokes all the way.</p> 789 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 790 791 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-102" data-commentid="102" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-102" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Peter Donaldson" aria-label="Reply to Peter Donaldson">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 792 </li><!-- #comment-## -->
793 <li id="comment-938" class="comment even depth-2"> 794 <article id="div-comment-938" class="comment-body"> 795 <footer class="comment-meta"> 796 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 797 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/497251e3c58714714ea16616e1d0d512cdf1d83faccb8b69454ed749e6bb310a?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/497251e3c58714714ea16616e1d0d512cdf1d83faccb8b69454ed749e6bb310a?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Mervyn Hyde</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 798 799 <div class="comment-metadata"> 800 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-938"><time datetime="2024-08-07T15:46:49+01:00">7th August 2024 at 3:46 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 801 802 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 803 804 <div class="comment-content"> 805 <p>The myth part of your story is that MMT doesn’t recognise inflation, of course inflation is the eternal risk, but its what government spends its money on that matters. As an example if government nationalises transport and only pays to run and administer it, it reduces inflation as they don’t have to pay for share holders and profits to the company. Even better it could make all transport free just like free bus fares for pensioners, think how that would help ordinary families with children. That’s just one example, the opportunities for a forward thinking government is endless. Real economists recognise that it’s the responsibility of government to ensure that real human and material resources are availvable at the time it spends into the economy to guarantee inflation is kept under control. Instead of today letting private profiteers rip and standing back whilst the so-called markets do their work.</p> 806 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 807 808 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-938" data-commentid="938" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-938" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Mervyn Hyde" aria-label="Reply to Mervyn Hyde">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 809 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 810</ol><!-- .children --> 811</li><!-- #comment-## --> 812 <li id="comment-55" class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> 813 <article id="div-comment-55" class="comment-body"> 814 <footer class="comment-meta"> 815 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 816 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/cf7fc6b47256487becc893936a78a22a73ed055abf695ce8b730d5359396a6ce?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/cf7fc6b47256487becc893936a78a22a73ed055abf695ce8b730d5359396a6ce?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Steven Greenberg</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 817 818 <div class="comment-metadata"> 819 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-55"><time datetime="2019-05-06T19:51:10+01:00">6th May 2019 at 7:51 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 820 821 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 822 823 <div class="comment-content"> 824 <p>You can’t adopt MMT. MMT is an explanation of what is.</p> 825 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 826 827 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-55" data-commentid="55" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-55" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Steven Greenberg" aria-label="Reply to Steven Greenberg">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 828 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 829 <li id="comment-58" class="comment even thread-even depth-1 parent"> 830 <article id="div-comment-58" class="comment-body"> 831 <footer class="comment-meta"> 832 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 833 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2f5aaed15712e63ef791b7ff7dc7f697a104bf17e972eed9bcc9f67786cd7f53?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2f5aaed15712e63ef791b7ff7dc7f697a104bf17e972eed9bcc9f67786cd7f53?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">
833Kevin Gill</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 834 835 <div class="comment-metadata"> 836 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-58"><time datetime="2019-05-08T15:00:15+01:00">8th May 2019 at 3:00 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 837 838 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 839 840 <div class="comment-content"> 841 <p>Craig,<br /> 842You seem to be missing the point. As Steven says, MMT isn’t a set of policies that you can choose to adopt, it is a description of how the real economy actually works. The consequences of recognising MMT is that you think about what the Govt is able to do based on real resources that are available and not on the amount of ‘money’ the Govt can ‘raise’ by taxation and/or borrowing. As a concrete example, the number of nurses and teachers leaving those professions is extremely high. That is both a highly inefficient loss of skilled, experienced professionals and has a highly deleterious effect on the quality of the services provided. Those people are leaving because the workload is crushing and the pay inadequate. We are told that this cannot be rectified because there is no money to put into those services because we need to reduce the deficit and pay down the debt. MMT recognises that those are false objectives; there is no actual economic rationale for doing so. The teachers and nurses (the real resources) are there and the demand for their services is there. What is needed is the Govt to create the funds to employ/re-employ the requisite numbers of staff and pay them appropriately. In MMT you merely create the funds to match the available resources rather than conventional policy which artificially restricts funds and then matches the resources to fit the small budget (austerity). There would be an inflation risk if the Govt created the funds to buy resources that could not be produced (i.e. if the economy or the relevant sector was already running at full capacity), so that ‘excess demand’ causes the price of scarce resources to increase. But the cause of inflation is lack of real resources, not too much spending. Create the funds to fit the resources, not the other way round.</p> 843 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 844 845 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-58" data-commentid="58" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-58" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Kevin Gill" aria-label="Reply to Kevin Gill">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 846 <ol class="children"> 847 <li id="comment-755" class="comment odd alt depth-2"> 848 <article id="div-comment-755" class="comment-body"> 849 <footer class="comment-meta"> 850 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 851 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fbc7eadf1b2dfce249050fe210a1cbb1396647997ab5df3cb60048c530fbb440?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fbc7eadf1b2dfce249050fe210a1cbb1396647997ab5df3cb60048c530fbb440?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn"><a href="http://artbyianthomson.com" class="url" rel="ugc external nofollow">Ian</a></b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 852 853 <div class="comment-metadata"> 854 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-755"><time datetime="2022-11-11T07:49:53+00:00">11th November 2022 at 7:49 am</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 855 856 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 857 858 <div class="comment-content"> 859 <p>Excellent summary!</p> 860 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 861 862 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-755" data-commentid="755" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-755" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Ian" aria-label="Reply to Ian">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 863 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 864 <li id="comment-908" class="comment even depth-2"> 865 <article id="div-comment-908" class="comment-body"> 866 <footer class="comment-meta"> 867 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 868 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d076c5f53dbcefa372ff4c74346a21f796cf6c6ce67c8aea8b58d0c397205db?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d076c5f53dbcefa372ff4c74346a21f796cf6c6ce67c8aea8b58d0c397205db?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Lewis</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 869 870 <div class="comment-metadata"> 871 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-908"><time datetime="2024-05-05T00:51:59+01:00">5th May 2024 at 12:51 am</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 872 873 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 874 875 <div class="comment-content"> 876 <p>Hi Craig,<br /> 877I like that explanation of MMT.<br /> 878Do you think that once the resources (teachers and nurses) get the money from the government and then SPEND it into the economy this will lead to price r
878ises?<br /> 879If so how does this play out, in terms of inflation?</p> 880 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 881 882 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-908" data-commentid="908" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-908" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Lewis" aria-label="Reply to Lewis">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 883 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 884</ol><!-- .children --> 885</li><!-- #comment-## --> 886 <li id="comment-63" class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> 887 <article id="div-comment-63" class="comment-body"> 888 <footer class="comment-meta"> 889 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 890 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c51de66c6d6a1a4fcc50ebeee563b1f7263b0a1fc38202a7a9d3cf4124fc7a2c?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c51de66c6d6a1a4fcc50ebeee563b1f7263b0a1fc38202a7a9d3cf4124fc7a2c?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">John Boodle</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 891 892 <div class="comment-metadata"> 893 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-63"><time datetime="2019-06-15T07:44:44+01:00">15th June 2019 at 7:44 am</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 894 895 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 896 897 <div class="comment-content"> 898 <p>What is “money”? A means of exchange? We read of rich men/women who have so many millions or billions, what does this mean? Lots of noughts on computers scattered across the globe which they can “put to use” at any time they wish, i.e. spend. It’s like a government’s “money”, intangible, only acceptable as a means of exchange for goods and services in a society which has the means to provide those goods and services, useless on a desert island or the moon! Only acceptable if that money can be further used as a means of exchange by the receiver. If course it is subject to demandpull/cost push inflation. This might not make sense, just exercising the mind.</p> 899 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 900 901 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-63" data-commentid="63" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-63" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to John Boodle" aria-label="Reply to John Boodle">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 902 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 903 <li id="comment-239" class="comment even thread-even depth-1"> 904 <article id="div-comment-239" class="comment-body"> 905 <footer class="comment-meta"> 906 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 907 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8229197247925048ce6345e31fab92f01f83011225f350d30ecb7f488147fe45?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/8229197247925048ce6345e31fab92f01f83011225f350d30ecb7f488147fe45?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Jon Salisbury</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 908 909 <div class="comment-metadata"> 910 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-239"><time datetime="2021-12-12T10:23:36+00:00">12th December 2021 at 10:23 am</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 911 912 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 913 914 <div class="comment-content"> 915 <p>Precisely. Saying that we should not adopt or implement MMT is like saying we should not adopt the theory of gravity because it might make us all heavier.</p> 916 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 917 918 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-239" data-commentid="239" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-239" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Jon Salisbury" aria-label="Reply to Jon Salisbury">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 919 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 920 <li id="comment-732" class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> 921 <article id="div-comment-732" class="comment-body"> 922 <footer class="comment-meta"> 923 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 924 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3e20ba00fc25160c3371148c064ed348b8836ae3f17294bf84f5db0a33688488?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3e20ba00fc25160c3371148c064ed348b8836ae3f17294bf84f5db0a33688488?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Ian Tresman</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 925 926 <div class="comment-metadata"> 927 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-732"><time datetime="2022-08-04T15:00:50+01:00">4th August 2022 at 3:00 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 928 929 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 930 931 <div class="comment-content"> 932 <p>All the public’s money comes from the central issuing bank. It is not ALL owed back to the bank because it is an investment in assets (e.g. infrastru
932cture and housing), and services (e.g. labour, health care and education). Of course the bank can take back its money at any time by increasing taxes and gain a surplus!</p> 933<p>If the population increases by 10%, then the public’s money must also increase by 10%, derived from the bank. No deficit is created because the entire population now has the same standard of living due to the bank’s investment in society.</p> 934<p>A bank that does not invest in a person’s labour to fix a dilapidated bridge is failing society.</p> 935 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 936 937 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-732" data-commentid="732" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-732" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Ian Tresman" aria-label="Reply to Ian Tresman">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 938 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 939 <li id="comment-760" class="comment even thread-even depth-1"> 940 <article id="div-comment-760" class="comment-body"> 941 <footer class="comment-meta"> 942 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 943 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fca3f56d31fc8d40161dceb5c50b15dad31926e69f056b11a5b2f65452810d5d?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/fca3f56d31fc8d40161dceb5c50b15dad31926e69f056b11a5b2f65452810d5d?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Bill Ward</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 944 945 <div class="comment-metadata"> 946 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-760"><time datetime="2022-12-13T19:23:15+00:00">13th December 2022 at 7:23 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 947 948 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 949 950 <div class="comment-content"> 951 <p>The only people who matter are the citizens of the country and they HAVE to accept the currency as they are obliged to pay their taxes in it.</p> 952 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 953 954 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-760" data-commentid="760" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-760" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Bill Ward" aria-label="Reply to Bill Ward">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 955 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 956 <li id="comment-875" class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1"> 957 <article id="div-comment-875" class="comment-body"> 958 <footer class="comment-meta"> 959 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 960 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/27a44c049cf6ea6ee7e7e44bdffee34802892ac56b773cf9c183af513fa6cb87?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/27a44c049cf6ea6ee7e7e44bdffee34802892ac56b773cf9c183af513fa6cb87?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Valerie Knight</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 961 962 <div class="comment-metadata"> 963 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-875"><time datetime="2024-01-21T18:20:16+00:00">21st January 2024 at 6:20 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 964 965 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 966 967 <div class="comment-content"> 968 <p>So the real undue is<br /> 969HOW DO WE REVERSE THIS LIE IN THE PUBLIC’S MIND?<br /> 970We couldctake the example of the creation of the NHS in 145-8 by a govt when the country was bankrupt apparrently, by war! Yet MMT still worked!! And a union investigation I the 1990s( I believe) showed that the NHS CONTRIBUTED 3% PA to our GDP.<br /> 971Likewise council housing.<br /> 972Likewise the publicly funded Education system.<br /> 973So this brings us back to the WILL of those making the govt choices re spending.<br /> 974And that brings us back to the age old Marxist choice. Do you want things organised by private companies which withdraw much of the public’s access to money by taking profits, or do you want things organised by not for profit organisation that leaves a lot more money floating around the system for people to use, instead of it ending up hidden away in off shore tax havens!!!</p> 975 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 976 977 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-875" data-commentid="875" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-875" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Valerie Knight" aria-label="Reply to Valerie Knight">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 978 </li><!-- #comment-## -->
979 <li id="comment-909" class="comment even thread-even depth-1"> 980 <article id="div-comment-909" class="comment-body"> 981 <footer class="comment-meta"> 982 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 983 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d076c5f53dbcefa372ff4c74346a21f796cf6c6ce67c8aea8b58d0c397205db?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d076c5f53dbcefa372ff4c74346a21f796cf6c6ce67c8aea8b58d0c397205db?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Lewis</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 984 985 <div class="comment-metadata"> 986 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-909"><time datetime="2024-05-05T00:54:20+01:00">5th May 2024 at 12:54 am</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 987 988 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 989 990 <div class="comment-content"> 991 <p>Hi Craig,<br /> 992I like that explanation of MMT.<br /> 993Do you think that once the resources (teachers and nurses) get the money from the government and then SPEND it into the economy this will lead to price rises?<br /> 994If so how does this play out, in terms of inflation?</p> 995 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 996 997 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-909" data-commentid="909" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-909" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Lewis" aria-label="Reply to Lewis">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 998 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 999 <li id="comment-910" class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent"> 1000 <article id="div-comment-910" class="comment-body"> 1001 <footer class="comment-meta"> 1002 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 1003 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d076c5f53dbcefa372ff4c74346a21f796cf6c6ce67c8aea8b58d0c397205db?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d076c5f53dbcefa372ff4c74346a21f796cf6c6ce67c8aea8b58d0c397205db?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Lewis</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 1004 1005 <div class="comment-metadata"> 1006 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-910"><time datetime="2024-05-07T22:17:21+01:00">7th May 2024 at 10:17 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 1007 1008 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 1009 1010 <div class="comment-content"> 1011 <p>Hi, could you tell me why you haven’t published the comment I made 3 days ago, it was waiting to be moderated, but seems to have disappeared.<br /> 1012Many thanks.<br /> 1013Lewis</p> 1014 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 1015 1016 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-910" data-commentid="910" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-910" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Lewis" aria-label="Reply to Lewis">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 1017 <ol class="children"> 1018 <li id="comment-923" class="comment byuser comment-author-admin bypostauthor even depth-2"> 1019 <article id="div-comment-923" class="comment-body"> 1020 <footer class="comment-meta"> 1021 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 1022 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo avatar-default' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">admin</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 1023 1024 <div class="comment-metadata"> 1025 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-923"><time datetime="2024-06-03T20:56:02+01:00">3rd June 2024 at 8:56 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 1026 1027 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 1028 1029 <div class="comment-content"> 1030 <p>Hi Lewis,</p> 1031<p>I hadn’t had chance to check the site for a few days. All your comments have been published now.</p> 1032<p>Claire</p> 1033 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 1034 1035 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-923" data-commentid="923" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-923" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to admin" aria-label="Reply to admin">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 1036 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 1037</ol><!-- .children --> 1038</li><!-- #comment-## -->
1039 <li id="comment-911" class="comment odd alt thread-even depth-1"> 1040 <article id="div-comment-911" class="comment-body"> 1041 <footer class="comment-meta"> 1042 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 1043 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d076c5f53dbcefa372ff4c74346a21f796cf6c6ce67c8aea8b58d0c397205db?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d076c5f53dbcefa372ff4c74346a21f796cf6c6ce67c8aea8b58d0c397205db?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Lewis</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 1044 1045 <div class="comment-metadata"> 1046 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-911"><time datetime="2024-05-07T22:20:40+01:00">7th May 2024 at 10:20 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 1047 1048 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 1049 1050 <div class="comment-content"> 1051 <p>Hi, could you tell me when you will publish the comments I made a few days ago, They were waiting to be moderated, but seem to have disappeared.<br /> 1052Many thanks.<br /> 1053Lewis</p> 1054 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 1055 1056 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-911" data-commentid="911" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-911" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Lewis" aria-label="Reply to Lewis">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 1057 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 1058 <li id="comment-912" class="comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent"> 1059 <article id="div-comment-912" class="comment-body"> 1060 <footer class="comment-meta"> 1061 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 1062 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d076c5f53dbcefa372ff4c74346a21f796cf6c6ce67c8aea8b58d0c397205db?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4d076c5f53dbcefa372ff4c74346a21f796cf6c6ce67c8aea8b58d0c397205db?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn">Lewis</b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 1063 1064 <div class="comment-metadata"> 1065 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-912"><time datetime="2024-05-10T12:34:39+01:00">10th May 2024 at 12:34 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 1066 1067 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 1068 1069 <div class="comment-content"> 1070 <p>No replies.<br /> 1071Why do MMT people fear honest discussion?</p> 1072 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 1073 1074 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-912" data-commentid="912" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-912" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Lewis" aria-label="Reply to Lewis">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 1075 <ol class="children"> 1076 <li id="comment-933" class="comment odd alt depth-2"> 1077 <article id="div-comment-933" class="comment-body"> 1078 <footer class="comment-meta"> 1079 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 1080 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f0eeacc43452ab406dc50b8dfbfaca2e98ddbd9e69b969c167650ebe3d3a9551?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f0eeacc43452ab406dc50b8dfbfaca2e98ddbd9e69b969c167650ebe3d3a9551?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn"><a href="https://gimms.org.uk/" class="url" rel="ugc">Derek Henry</a></b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 1081 1082 <div class="comment-metadata"> 1083 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-933"><time datetime="2024-07-15T23:02:01+01:00">15th July 2024 at 11:02 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 1084 1085 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 1086 1087 <div class="comment-content"> 1088 <p>Here’s a couple of replies to your comments Lewis.</p> 1089<p>Your spending is someone else’s income and vice versa.</p> 1090<p>If you give somebody £100, they spend it which is taxed at 20%, leaving the next person with £80 as income. They then spend that £80 which is taxed at 20%, leaving the next person with £64 as income. And so on until the entire £100 disappears and creates £100 of extra tax. All without changing the tax rate one single percent</p> 1091<p>The result is lots of extra sales and income for people down the spending chain they wouldn’t otherwise have received. It’s a straightforward geometric progression.</p> 1092<p>Eventually £100 has been put into the economy and £100 has been taken out of the economy.</p> 1093<p>So why would the price level rise ?</p> 1094<p>If they all used their £100 to buy a puppy then the price of puppies might rise if there is not enough of them. But they don’t they buy many different goods and services. So you have to keep an eye on where the shortages are and the bottlenecks on the supply side. </p> 1095<p>Bank lending and tax cuts can also be inflationary for all the same reasons. If everyone who took out a loan bought a puppy or everyone who got a tax cut bought a puppy then the price of puppies ” could ” rise.</p> 1096<p>With the government the sole supplier of that which it demands for payment of taxes, the economy needs the stateâs currency and therefore state spending set
1096s the terms of exchange; the price level is a function of prices paid by the state when it spends.</p> 1097<p>There are two primary dynamics involved in the determination of the price level. The first is the introduction of absolute value of the stateâs numeraire, which takes place by the prices the state pays when it spends. Moreover, the only information with regard to absolute value as measured in units of the stateâs currency is the information transmitted by state spending. Therefore, all nominal prices can necessarily be traced back to prices the state pays when spending its currency.</p> 1098<p>The second dynamic is the transmission of this information by markets allocating by price as they express indifference levels between buyers and sellers, and all in the context of the stateâs institutional structure.</p> 1099<p>The price level, therefore, consists of prices dictated by government spending policy along with all other prices subsequently derived by market forces operating within government institutional structure.</p> 1100<p>The state sets the terms of exchange for its currency with the prices it pays when it spends, and not per se by the quantity of currency that it spends. For example, if the state has an open-ended offer to hire doctors at £50,000 per year, the price level as thereby defined will remain constant regardless of how many Doctors are hired and regardless of the stateâs total spending. The state has set the value of its numeraire exogenously, providing that information of absolute value that market forces then utilise to allocate by price with exchange values of other goods and services determined in the marketplace. Without the state supplied information, however, there would be no expression of relative value in terms of that currency. </p> 1101<p>Should the state decide, for example, to increase the price it pays for its Doctors to £55,000 per year, it would be redefining the value of its currency downward and increasing the general price level by 10%, as market forces reflect that increase in the normal course of allocating by price and determining relative value. And for as long as the state continues to pay Soctors £55,000 per year, assuming constant relative values, the price level will remain unchanged. And, for example, the state would have to continually increase the rate of pay by 10% annually to support a continuous annual increase of the price level of 10%.</p> 1102 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 1103 1104 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-933" data-commentid="933" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-933" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Derek Henry" aria-label="Reply to Derek Henry">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 1105 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 1106 <li id="comment-935" class="comment even depth-2"> 1107 <article id="div-comment-935" class="comment-body"> 1108 <footer class="comment-meta"> 1109 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 1110 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f0eeacc43452ab406dc50b8dfbfaca2e98ddbd9e69b969c167650ebe3d3a9551?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f0eeacc43452ab406dc50b8dfbfaca2e98ddbd9e69b969c167650ebe3d3a9551?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn"><a href="https://gimms.org.uk/?unapproved=934&moderation-hash=bca482a8c7e84319791c4f275da5a247#comment-934" class="url" rel="ugc">Derek Henry</a></b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 1111 1112 <div class="comment-metadata"> 1113 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-935"><time datetime="2024-07-15T23:29:27+01:00">15th July 2024 at 11:29 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 1114 1115 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 1116 1117 <div class="comment-content"> 1118 <p>Lewis that is known as The paradox of productivity.</p> 1119<p>The issue the monetarists suffer from is an aggregation issue. If you hold £100, nobody knows if you are saving that or intending to spend it. What we really need is the amount of bank liabilities that have materially changed their ownership tag over a period of time. Then we would know what âVtâ is. But we donât have that, so monetarists try to guess â assuming all M is in motion if it fits in a particular classification. Hence all the M1, M2 nonsense. Those categorisations are wrong. Plain and simple. As we can never know what â Vtâ is.</p> 1120<p>I donât have to spend a demand deposit. It can sit there for months. I donât even need to âoptimiseâ it, because unlike economists my life doesnât revolve around a belief in interest rates ruling everything. I just keep it there because I like the size of it, or Iâm scared of the future. Or a bit of both.</p> 1121<p>The neoliberals and conservatives say nothing very much â other than lamenting that they canât work out what money is locked in place and which is in circulation because we now have interest payments on demand deposits and time deposits that can be cashed on demand.</p> 1122<p>The monetarists are stuck in the 1960s. Finance has evolved so that nothing is locked in place â which means you canât manipulate it to speed up and slow down the economy.</p> 1123<p>The neoclassical Keynsian, monetarist and Austrian view still believes that the economy tends to fix itself. If we just sit back economic growth will go back to its maximum.</p> 1124<p>Unemployment will drop to 2% what we consider full employment but it might need some help now and then. The Paul Krugman mainstream view. That There are no business cycles. Remember that when the globalist neoliberal UK Parliament claimed the business cycle is dead.</p> 1125<p>However, the truth is you could have the purist free market economy in the world but still have big unemployment numbers because the system tends to move towards breakdown.</p> 1126<p>Why ? Why does the system tend to move towards breakdown ?</p> 1127<p>Why canât it be that higher wages force firms to invest in better management te
1127chniques and the most advanced technologies in order to get the most out of their higher cost labour?</p> 1128<p>Thatâs known as the paradox of productivity. Productivity improvements just lead to falling prices, so firms try to avoid doing productivity improvements and prefer to try and obtain monopoly power instead. Thatâs what a âmarket nicheâ is.</p> 1129<p>Oh boy have we seen this monopoly power as the public sector was transformed into rent seeking monopolies. Energy companies for one during the supply side constraints. I will go into that in more detail later.</p> 1130<p>Higher wages will lead to some firms failing, which releases people onto the labour market, driving down wages. If you try to hold those jobs up, and force losses onto the other side you end up with an investment strike and the whole house of cards collapses into stagflation. Remember when privatised companies tried to hold the government to ransom by refusing to invest during the pandemic.</p> 1131<p>Failing to match higher wages with higher product must result in both investment capital and the demanding wage earners taking a cold bath. The economic system is a referee. It must not favour either side in the football match.</p> 1132<p>And why would firms in a competitive capitalistic system ever try to avoid productivity improvements?</p> 1133<p>Simple-</p> 1134<p>Compare the cost of a concert violinist to a loaf of bread in the 19th century vs today. Thatâs what productivity increases do over time â because it takes less human time to produce an item, and time is really what everything ends up being priced in.</p> 1135<p>Thatâs the paradox of productivity. Productivity improvements ultimately leads to cheaper prices not increased profits. Because thatâs what competition is there to do. The profits can go further â in that they can buy more stuff. But capitalists like to accumulate units of account.</p> 1136<p>In essence the dynamics of pure competition leads to an oversupply in the market which brings prices down until firms start to go bust to eliminate the oversupply. Therefore market players try to stop competition happening by constantly seeking a monopoly perch on which to extract rent.</p> 1137<p>Oh boy, we have we seen this happening time and time again. With a big 2 or 3 in each sector rigging prices between themselves.</p> 1138<p>The myths of free market beliefs say it all sorts itself out. It clearly doesnât. The system has to force competition onto essentially reluctant players, and eliminating the clarion call of âwhat about the jobsâ is one way of doing that â let bad firms go bust.</p> 1139<p>A company that can produce more with the same inputs (costs) is going to do that if there is a market for their product.</p> 1140<p>Thatâs the HUGE problem. Because the costs is the income that is used to buy the products ( in aggregate).</p> 1141<p>If you expand output then you are selling to the same income which implies that the price must go down to shift the increased amount of stuff. Theoretically their competition will eventually learn to do the same and the excess profit will disappear.</p> 1142<p>Not theoretically. This is exactly what happens. The dynamics of market share maintenance kicks in and prices go down. You get a short uplift and then a nose dive. When you have been in business long enough you know it is better to find a niche than run up and down this escalator. Because items are ultimately priced in a personâs time used to make them. When it boils down to it actual demand must match actual supply at the point of EFFECTIVE demand.</p> 1143<p>THE job guarentee fixes that and ratches competition up to mach 10. By flattening the Phillips curve.</p> 1144<p><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M-8RXC_vY2g&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fyoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com%2F&source_ve_path=OTY3MTQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M-8RXC_vY2g&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fyoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com%2F&source_ve_path=OTY3MTQ</a></p> 1145<p>So no Lewis MMT’rs don’t fear honest discussion. If you studied the MMT body of work over the last 30 years. Most questions you have has already been answered.</p> 1146 </div><!-- .comment-content --> 1147 1148 <div class="reply"><a rel="nofollow" class="comment-reply-link" href="#comment-935" data-commentid="935" data-postid="2" data-belowelement="div-comment-935" data-respondelement="respond" data-replyto="Reply to Derek Henry" aria-label="Reply to Derek Henry">Reply</a></div> </article><!-- .comment-body --> 1149 </li><!-- #comment-## --> 1150</ol><!-- .children --> 1151</li><!-- #comment-## -->
1152 <li id="comment-934" class="comment odd alt thread-even depth-1"> 1153 <article id="div-comment-934" class="comment-body"> 1154 <footer class="comment-meta"> 1155 <div class="comment-author vcard"> 1156 <img alt='' src='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f0eeacc43452ab406dc50b8dfbfaca2e98ddbd9e69b969c167650ebe3d3a9551?s=50&d=mm&r=g' srcset='https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f0eeacc43452ab406dc50b8dfbfaca2e98ddbd9e69b969c167650ebe3d3a9551?s=100&d=mm&r=g 2x' class='avatar avatar-50 photo' height='50' width='50' loading='lazy' decoding='async'/> <b class="fn"><a href="https://gimms.org.uk/?unapproved=933&moderation-hash=275c16d242aefa08997062f8ec3cfd20#comment-933" class="url" rel="ugc">Derek Henry</a></b> <span class="says">says:</span> </div><!-- .comment-author --> 1157 1158 <div class="comment-metadata"> 1159 <a href="https://gimms.org.uk/#comment-934"><time datetime="2024-07-15T23:12:25+01:00">15th July 2024 at 11:12 pm</time></a> </div><!-- .comment-metadata --> 1160 1161 </footer><!-- .comment-meta --> 1162 1163 <div class="comment-content"> 1164 <p>Lewis what else has happened over the last 50 years.</p> 1165<p>Back in the 1920âs a guy called Hotelling started to look at Monopolistic competition in terms of location and used the example of where would 2 ice cream sellers on a beach locate themselves. From a social point of view you would think they should locate themselves about one quarter way in on one side of the beach. The other seller would do the same at the other end of the beach. So that they divided the market in two and the consumers could access the ice cream. You would end up with a long beach with a seller at each end a quarter way in on the beach.</p> 1166<p>Hotelling then says letâs assume the ice cream sellers are mobile and one ice cream sellers moved a bit closer to the centre. In terms of distance starts to steal some of the consumption of the other seller. Which then forces this seller to move a bit closer to the middle of the beach to try and get it back. Hotelling noticed that what happens is eventually you end up with both sellers right in the centre of the beach beside each other. This is not optimal from the stand point of those in the long beach that would like to buy ice cream. The social optimum for the consumers and that is have the sellerâs spread out across the beach has been destroyed by the competition between the 2 sellers. The 2 sellers will eventually come to a monopolistic agreement regarding their prices.</p> 1167<p>Then Hotelling says what happens if a 3rd seller sets up on the beach. Everything becomes unstable as the 3 sellers set up in different places on the beach every day and prices become unstable. Until eventually all 3 end up in the same place in the beach and work together.</p> 1168<p>Why in cities you have districts that sell the same product. You would expect them to be all over the city but you end up with Jewellers all in one area. Pubs and nightclubs, shopping centres, DIY stores, Bookies, Restaurants etc, etc, etc.</p> 1169<p>So when you get a big 2 or 3 in any sector what do they do. What do the energy companies do ? What do the water companies do ? What do the rail companies do ?</p> 1170<p>They head to the centre of the beach and form a MONOPOLY and work it between themselves how to extract the most rent as possible and take turns at hiking prices for their services. They turned the public sector into a rent extracting MONOPOLIES.</p> 1171<p>These out of town shopping centres are deliberate. It allows them to all move to the centre of the beach like the ice cream sellers. The high street are just a number of consortiums that own everything.</p> 1172<p>When you buy from the privatised public sector you are faced with a big two in each sector. 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The cover's illustration shwos a burning sky and flooded land with politicians shouting that there's no money and that they are fiscally responsible. People and animals are drowning in the foreground" class="wp-image-4102 size-full" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/gimms.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/The-Money-Sham-book-front-cover.png?resize=619%2C1024&ssl=1 619w, https://i0.wp.com/gimms.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/The-Money-Sham-book-front-cover.png?resize=181%2C300&ssl=1 181w, https://i0.wp.com/gimms.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/The-Money-Sham-book-front-cover.png?w=768&ssl=1 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 619px) 100vw, 619px" /></figure><div class="wp-block-media-text__content"> 1413<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>The Money Sham</strong> addresses head-on the whole UK political-economic narrative, from the time of Newton, through the last century and up to the present day. 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