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599è¼ããã¨ãSonnet 4.5ã¯å®è£ ãä¸å®å ¨ã ã£ãããå¿ è¦ãªãã¹ãã³ã¼ããä¸è¶³ãã¦ãããã¨ããããã¨ã³ã¡ã³ããã¦ãã¾ãã</p> 600 601<p>åç´ãªã³ã¼ãçæã¯å¾æã§ããããã¸ã§ã¯ãå ¨ä½ã®æèãçè§£ããä¸ã§ã®è¤éãªã¿ã¹ã¯ã«ã¯ãã¾ã 課é¡ãæ®ãã®ããããã¾ããã</p> 602 603<h4 id="ä»ã®ã¢ãã«ã¨ã®æ¯è¼">ä»ã®ã¢ãã«ã¨ã®æ¯è¼</h4> 604 605<p>å¤ãã®ã¦ã¼ã¶ã¼ãããã¯ãOpenAIã®GPTã·ãªã¼ãºãç¹ã«ãGPT-5ãããã®æ´¾çã¢ãã«ã¨ã®æ¯è¼ãè¡ã£ã¦ãã¾ãã</p> 606 607<p>å ¨ä½çãªé¢¨æ½®ã¨ãã¦ã¯ã</p> 608 609<ul> 610<li><strong>徿ãªã¿ã¹ã¯:</strong> ã³ã¼ãçæãæ¯è¼çåç´ãªã¿ã¹ã¯ã§ã¯ãSonnet 4.5ãéåº¦ã¨æ§è½ã®é¢ã§é常ã«ç«¶äºåãããã</li> 611<li><strong>è¤éãªã¿ã¹ã¯:</strong> ããè¤éãªã·ããªãªãå¤§è¦æ¨¡éçºã§ã¯ãã¾ã GPT-5-Codexã®ãããªç¹åã¢ãã«ã«åãããã</li> 612</ul> 613 614 615<p>ã¨ããè¦æ¹ãå¤ãããã§ãã</p> 616 617<h3 id="æµ·å¤ã¦ã¼ã¶ã¼ã®å ·ä½çãªå£°åæå¼ç¨">æµ·å¤ã¦ã¼ã¶ã¼ã®å ·ä½çãªå£°ï¼åæå¼ç¨ï¼</h3> 618 619<p>ããã«ãã¹ã¬ããã«å¯ããããå ·ä½çãªã¦ã¼ã¶ã¼ã®å£°ãããã¤ãããã¯ã¢ãããã¦ãç´¹ä»ãã¾ãã</p> 620 621<h4 id="ã¨ã¼ã¸ã§ã³ãã¨ãã¦ã®ã³ã¼ãã£ã³ã°è½åãçµ¶è³ãã声">ã¨ã¼ã¸ã§ã³ãã¨ãã¦ã®ã³ã¼ãã£ã³ã°è½åãçµ¶è³ãã声</h4> 622 623<p>ã¦ã¼ã¶ã¼<code>PsecretPseudonym</code>æ°ã¯ãä»ã®ã¢ãã«ãè¦æ¦ããã¿ã¹ã¯ã§ã®æåä½é¨ã詳細ã«èªããSonnet 4.5ããã¨ã¼ã¸ã§ã³ãçãªã³ã¼ãã¼ã¨ãã¦æé«ãããããªããã¨é«ãè©ä¾¡ãã¦ãã¾ãã</p> 624 625<blockquote><p>Just a few hours in, but on some tasks both gpt-5-codex and Opus 4.1 struggled with. 626It might be the best agentic coder out there â by a wide margin depending on what you care about. 627Really productive, fast, more deliberate and conscientious, less amnesia, a substantial drop in noticeable sycophancy so far. 628(...) 629The biggest thing Iâm noticing is the quality is as good or better than gpt-5-codex and Opus 4.1, but it just thinks with more clarity and takes more deliberate actions more quickly, so itâs way, way faster at actually getting things done.</p> 630 631<p>by PsecretPseudonym</p></blockquote> 632 633<h4 id="å¤§è¦æ¨¡ããã¸ã§ã¯ãã§ã®å³ããè©ä¾¡">å¤§è¦æ¨¡ããã¸ã§ã¯ãã§ã®å³ããè©ä¾¡</h4> 634 635<p>䏿¹ã§ãã¦ã¼ã¶ã¼<code>yagooar</code>æ°ã¯ãç´20ä¸è¡ã®ã¦ã§ãã¢ããªã±ã¼ã·ã§ã³ã«ãã¡ã¸ã¼æ¤ç´¢ãå®è£ ãããéã®æ¯è¼ä½é¨ãå ±åãSonnet 4.5ã¯é«éã ã£ããã®ã®ããã°ãå¤ããã¹ãããªãä¸å®å ¨ãªå®è£ ã«çµãã£ãã¨ææãå¯¾ç §çã«ãGPT-5-Codexã¯æéã¯ããã£ããã®ã®ãã·ãã¢éçºè ã®ãããªå®ç§ãªä»äºãããã¨çµè«ä»ãã¦ãã¾ãã</p> 636 637<blockquote><p>Sonnet 4.5 went really fast at ~3min. But what it built was broken and superficial. The code did not even manage to reuse already existing auth and started re-building auth server-side instead of looking how other API endpoints do it. Even re-prompting and telling it how it went wrong did not help much. No tests were written (despite the project rules requiring it).</p> 638 639<p>GPT-5-Codex needed MUCH longer ~20min. Changes made were much more profound, but it implemented proper error handling, lots of edge cases and wrote tests without me prompting it to do so (project rules already require it). API calls ran smoothly. The entire feature worked perfectly.</p> 640 641<p>My conclusion is clear: GPT-5-Codex is the clear winner, not even close.</p> 642 643<p>by yagooar</p></blockquote> 644 645<h4 id="ãã³ããã¼ã¯ã§ã®æ§è½ä½ä¸ãææãã声">ãã³ããã¼ã¯ã§ã®æ§è½ä½ä¸ãææãã声</h4> 646 647<p>ã¦ã¼ã¶ã¼<code>redditisunproductive</code>æ°ã¯ãç¬èªã®æ¨è«ãã¹ãã®çµæãå ±æãSonnet 4.5ã¯ä»¥åã®Sonnet 4ãOpus 4.1ã¨æ¯è¼ãã¦ãæ£è§£æ°ãæ¸ãã¨ã©ã¼ãå¤§å¹ ã«å¢å ããã¨å ±åãã¦ãã¾ãããæ°ããClaudeã¢ãã«ã¯é常ã«éï¼super sloppyï¼ã§ãç´°é¨ã¸ã®æ³¨æåãæ¬ ãã¦ãããã¨å³ããè©ä¾¡ã§ãã</p> 648 649<blockquote><p>I ran a reasoning test on the new Deepseek and Claude models, compared to old models. (...) 650Sonnet 4 (WebUI) 18 correct, 1 error 651Sonnet 4.5 (WebUI) 13 correct, 29 errors 652Opus 4.1 (WebUI) 42 correct, 16 errors 653(...) 654I'm not convinced we aren't still stuck in the era of "jagged uplift". It seems like new model typically perform worse in private benchmarks even as they push forward in other public benchmarks. In particular, the new Claude models are super sloppy.</p> 655 656<p>by redditisunproductive</p></blockquote> 657 658<h4 id="Claudeç¹æã®ãä¸è¾ãæ¶ãã">Claudeç¹æã®ããä¸è¾ããæ¶ããï¼</h4> 659 660<p>
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